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Author:  alden [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:36 am ]
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This reads to me as if he said "screw appealing to moderates or independents". Thoughts?

Author:  solipsistnation [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:00 am ]
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And now Romney won't appeal to ANYONE except the "anyone but Obama" voters. Hooray!

Author:  ashley [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:24 am ]
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This is Romney shouting at the Republican base, "Look! I really am one of you! Proof!"

The Obama campaign must be excited. The poster child for ending medicare is on the ticket!

Author:  Tofulish [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:31 am ]
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ashley wrote:
The Obama campaign must be excited. The poster child for ending medicare is on the ticket!


According to the Congressional Budget Office, total health expenditures for a typical 65-year-old “would be almost 40 percent higher with private coverage under the [Ryan] plan than they would be with a continuation of traditional Medicare” in the first year that the Ryan Plan is in effect.

I know that I'm going to be repeating that ad nauseum to any potential Romney/Ryan voters who are elderly (hi MIL!) or care about someone elderly.

The only way this would be funnier is if he had picked Jack Ryan...

Author:  Tofulish [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:58 am ]
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Use Planned Parenthood's form to send a letter to Ryan and your friends letting them know his stance on abortion (ban it with no exception for rape and/or incest), Planned Parenthood (shut it down) and fetal personhood (he supports it). He is a disaster for women's health - this isn't just about the economy any more.

http://bit.ly/P63Suf

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Author:  FootFace [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:18 pm ]
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This is the push I needed to switch to Romney.

Author:  masuphl [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:34 pm ]
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I can't imagine that this pick is going to help Romney at all. Not sure what the plan is. ???

Author:  bunniee [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:01 pm ]
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ashley wrote:
This is Romney shouting at the Republican base, "Look! I really am one of you! Proof!"

The Obama campaign must be excited. The poster child for ending medicare is on the ticket!


yup, this is going to be interesting. I wonder how many elderly Republicans will switch to vote Democrat because of worries about what Romney/Ryan might do to Medicare. Maybe Romney's advisers are telling him there are enough young voters to make up for the loss, or he's just clueless.

Author:  alden [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:41 pm ]
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masuphl wrote:
I can't imagine that this pick is going to help Romney at all. Not sure what the plan is. ???


My inside sources on the radio tell me this is his attempt to energize the die hard conservatives that weren't that enthusiastic about Romney. I guess them being enthusiastic might have the possible effect of helping him raise more money or go out and canvas more, but I don't think the type of people that will jump for joy over Paul Ryan had any intentions of voting for anyone except for Romney in the first place.

Author:  Sass [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:45 pm ]
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alden wrote:
This reads to me as if he said "screw appealing to moderates or independents". Thoughts?

I had the same reaction. I think he just shot himself in the foot, so to speak. YESSSSSSS.

Author:  Mr. Shankly [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:57 pm ]
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I feel like this is another Sarah Palin kind of thing. Will there at least be some humor to gain in all of this?

Author:  jogirl [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:12 pm ]
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Sass wrote:
alden wrote:
This reads to me as if he said "screw appealing to moderates or independents". Thoughts?

I had the same reaction. I think he just shot himself in the foot, so to speak. YESSSSSSS.

I really hope so. I have no idea who this guy is - he has no recognition this side of the pond. Is he well known in the US?

Author:  bekki [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:16 pm ]
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Mr. Shankly wrote:
I feel like this is another Sarah Palin kind of thing. Will there at least be some humor to gain in all of this?


I don't know...Sarah was funny until she was terrifying. I think he's just starting off at terrifying, so I'm not sure what comes after that.

Author:  Sass [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:35 pm ]
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jogirl wrote:
I really hope so. I have no idea who this guy is - he has no recognition this side of the pond. Is he well known in the US?

Moderately so. He was in the news awhile ago during the Congress shenanigans where they couldn't approve a new budget. He wanted to change Medicare so that they get vouchers instead of the government just paying for their healthcare. And also I think he wanted to get rid of medicare for people who were under a certain age.

Author:  Vantine [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:02 pm ]
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I read something that compared him to the choice that Dole made to add Jack Kemp to the ticket.

Author:  Tofulish [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:06 pm ]
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I just think the two of them look so much like the team from McKinsey that is here to fire you and your entire department.

Author:  ashley [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:10 pm ]
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Mr. Shankly wrote:
I feel like this is another Sarah Palin kind of thing. Will there at least be some humor to gain in all of this?

Well, the Biden-Ryan debates will be gold.

Other than that, probably not.

Author:  Tofulish [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:16 pm ]
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ashley wrote:
Well, the Biden-Ryan debates will be gold.


Oh yes please!

Author:  Sophiagrt [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:28 pm ]
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Google: Paul Ryan talks about deer hunting.

There will be all sorts of site discussing how he love hunting. He LOVES hunting deer. Especially with a bow. I heard him speaking about it on the radio to some crowd today (so he can make his appeal to the NRA crowd and seemingly connect to blue collar).

All about how deer hunting is starting and he can't wait to get home to starting the killing deer with his family. (He and Palin have something in common.)

While there are lots of issues this election is certainly one pertinent to this board.

Author:  Anek [ Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:52 pm ]
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Can candidates change their VP before the elections? I'm wondering if this guy got chosen on purpose because he's so bad, and in a few weeks Romney will sort of "see the light" and change to a more moderate one so the public might think he's not so bad anymore?

Author:  FootFace [ Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:37 pm ]
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That would make Romney look totally incompetent. I couldn't say that's never been done, but... It just isn't done.

Author:  FootFace [ Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:39 pm ]
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And Ryan only looks awful to people who already thought Romney looked awful.

Author:  Tzippy [ Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:44 pm ]
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FootFace wrote:
That would make Romney look totally incompetent. I couldn't say that's never been done, but... It just isn't done.


I think McGovern did it in 1972, but I believe that it was the VP running mate that offered to withdraw (plus McGovern lost, so...). I don't know of an instance since then when it was happened, but I am far from an expert on the subject.

Author:  alden [ Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:13 pm ]
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Anek wrote:
Can candidates change their VP before the elections? I'm wondering if this guy got chosen on purpose because he's so bad, and in a few weeks Romney will sort of "see the light" and change to a more moderate one so the public might think he's not so bad anymore?


I'm sure he could, but I'm also 100% sure that picking Ryan is the Romney campaigns effort to direct the campaign discussion completely toward the budget, because even for most conservatives Ryan is a bit too far to the right on social issues.

Author:  lycophyte [ Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:59 pm ]
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Tofulish wrote:
ashley wrote:
The Obama campaign must be excited. The poster child for ending medicare is on the ticket!


According to the Congressional Budget Office, total health expenditures for a typical 65-year-old “would be almost 40 percent higher with private coverage under the [Ryan] plan than they would be with a continuation of traditional Medicare” in the first year that the Ryan Plan is in effect.

I know that I'm going to be repeating that ad nauseum to any potential Romney/Ryan voters who are elderly (hi MIL!) or care about someone elderly.

The only way this would be funnier is if he had picked Jack Ryan...


I thought his stupid wuss out way of trying to keep these voters is that it will only affect people who are younger and not yet into that system? So if they only care about themselves (you know, like Ryan Ayn Randiness), it shouldn't affect their voting, but if they care about people who will soon be in their place, then they will maybe reconsider?

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