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 Post subject: If you aren't veg already . . . you will be in 40 years.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:23 pm 
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Basically, in 40 years, there will not be enough water to feed everyone a diet based on animal proteins. There will be just enough to feed everyone a plant-based diet.
http://www.care2.com/causes/go-vegetarian-or-the-world-will-go-hungry.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-development/2012/aug/26/food-shortages-world-vegetarianism


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 Post subject: Re: If you aren't veg already . . . you will be in 40 years.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:50 pm 
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THAT DOESN:T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT LOCALLY PRODYUCED BEEF AND CHICKEN AND PORK AND DAIRTY. IF IT'S GRASS-FED BEEF TYHERN ALL OF THIS DFOESN"T COUNT!!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: If you aren't veg already . . . you will be in 40 years.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:58 pm 
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This is plausible. It reminds me of when we all went vegetarian during the Haitian food crisis.

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 Post subject: Re: If you aren't veg already . . . you will be in 40 years.
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Wasn't there a global food crisis in the 1970s? I think that had a part in inspiring the book, Diet For A Small Planet. The number of vegetarians may have grown in the last 40 years but I seriously doubt that a majority of people will turn vegetarian or vegan over the next few decades. It would be great if this happened, but it seems like wishful and doomsday type thinking.

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 Post subject: Re: If you aren't veg already . . . you will be in 40 years.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:25 pm 
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THAT DOESN:T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT LOCALLY PRODYUCED BEEF AND CHICKEN AND PORK AND DAIRTY. IF IT'S GRASS-FED BEEF TYHERN ALL OF THIS DFOESN"T COUNT!!!!!

Yeah! And those soybeans used for you GMO tofu probably had to be flown around the globe a dozen times before it made it to your plate!

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 Post subject: Re: If you aren't veg already . . . you will be in 40 years.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:13 am 
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nickvicious wrote:
And those soybeans used for you GMO tofu probably had to be flown around the globe a dozen times before it made it to your plate!


Two dozen times, bisques. Thoroughly inspected by TSA officials each time.

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 Post subject: Re: If you aren't veg already . . . you will be in 40 years.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:24 pm 
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bunniee wrote:
Wasn't there a global food crisis in the 1970s? I think that had a part in inspiring the book, Diet For A Small Planet. The number of vegetarians may have grown in the last 40 years but I seriously doubt that a majority of people will turn vegetarian or vegan over the next few decades. It would be great if this happened, but it seems like wishful and doomsday type thinking.


There were around 4 billion humans in the '70's. In 2050, there should be 9 billion. I would think that would make a difference.

The SIWI report this is from is REALLY worth reading and I'm looking forward to the release of the book these numbers are based on: http://www.taylorandfrancis.com/books/details/9780415539692/


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 Post subject: Re: If you aren't veg already . . . you will be in 40 years.
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I have the feeling it will result in resource wars before people give up their luxuries. Bring up the problem of limited resources, someone will yell "Malthusian!", and assume to have won the argument.


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 Post subject: Re: If you aren't veg already . . . you will be in 40 years.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:43 pm 
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Well, yeah, any number of outcomes is possible. While the resource estimates are based on physical facts, humanity's response depends us. While the numbers say the earth won't be able to sustain a human diet with more than 5% of calories coming from animal products on average, that doesn't mean the most affluent people won't go right on eating what they eat now while the rest of the world starves to death. That's really what's happening already....


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