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 Post subject: Bible Life Ministries who funds this this anti veg group?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:30 pm 
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I was searching for RDA of carbs for vegans tonight and found this website:

http://www.biblelife.org/vegetarian-deficiencies.htm


I was wondering if anyone ever heard of it and if perhaps the meat and dairy industry fund it.

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 Post subject: Re: Bible Life Ministries who funds this this anti veg group
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:15 am 
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Their "typical day" made me laugh really hard. Yes, I usually have orange juice, 2 bagels and a cup of dried lentils!

I don't know anything else about this.

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And then some split peas and a potato.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:34 am 
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The writing on that site is brutal and I couldn't get through it all. But from everything I did read, this was my favourite part-

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The vegetarian diet is disastrous for the developing male fetus. The vegetarian diet is typically very high in soy products such as:

Soy milk as a substitute for cows' milk.

Soy enriched cereal with soy milk, of course.

Soy enriched bread.

Soy enriched flour for baking.

Soy bagels.

Soy cookies.

Soy tofu.

Soy veggie burgers as a substitute for beef burgers.

Soybeans roasted as a substitute for nuts.

Soy infant formula for baby.

Soybean oil salad dressings.

Soy enriched ice cream.

Soy enriched pudding.

Soy energy bars.

Soy enriched potatoes.


I personally hate soy tofu. But I can't get enough of soy cookies and soy potatoes, so at least they got those things right.


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 Post subject: Re: Bible Life Ministries who funds this this anti veg group
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:37 am 
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I am loving the details in the "Little Miss Vegan College Coed" story.

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Little Miss Vegan College Coed didn't know that her diet was composed of 80% carbohydrates or that it was killing her. She was deficient in cholesterol, fats, proteins, vitamins, and minerals. Now she had developed an autoimmune inflammatory bowel disease. Yikes! Her 98-pound skinny frame was in severe catabolism. Every joint was sore. She was depressed and tired. Her sex drive was zero, and she didn't care about meeting any of the men on campus. "Maybe I am a lesbian," she thought. Her inflammatory bowel disease had begun to control her relationships with people and interfere with her education. She continued with her thinking, "I feel dirty inside and an intimate relationship is a big turnoff."


It's like they know me.

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 Post subject: Re: Bible Life Ministries who funds this this anti veg group
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:38 am 
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I thought it was a joke site.

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 Post subject: Re: Bible Life Ministries who funds this this anti veg group
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Toward the bottom of the site they start saying cancer rates are higher in Southern India and attribute it to a vegetarian diet. So I googled southern india and read a bit on wikepedia which was interesting. I also found a medical article that contradicts what he is saying it seems to be to a pretty reliable source:

http://www.scgcorp.com/pdf/scg_written_11.pdf

Although if you look long enough you can find something to support a particular view. Where there is cancer present there seems to be other mitigating factors such a pann chewing for example. I don't believe veganism will prevent cancer though.

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 Post subject: Re: Bible Life Ministries who funds this this anti veg group
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I read a lot of it, they're definitely not joking, but they're certainly not that good at backing up their facts.

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Anything that long and rambling on the internet can't be true.

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 Post subject: Re: Bible Life Ministries who funds this this anti veg group
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:43 am 
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I guess the same person is behind a book about how the big bang theory is a lie...

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 Post subject: Re: Bible Life Ministries who funds this this anti veg group
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Also I like that this guy has to mention that he has a bachelor's degree every time he mentions his name. Like, that's cool, I only have a bachelor's degree too, but no one is going to believe that makes you qualified.

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Objective Ministries is the joke site. They have the kids website with the angry goat and happy sheep and such. Good times.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:58 am 
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Vegetables. Eat well-done, boiled, or steamed asparagus, eggplant, green or yellow string beans, red tomatoes, spinach, celery, peppers, or green or yellow zucchini squash only. Red, gold, and yellow peppers may be better than the standard green peppers. These must be well cooked. They are good in a stir fry using refined coconut oil. Make a nice lunch or dinner by adding cubed precooked meat or leftover meat to stir-fried vegetables. Some cabbage is OK if well cooked. Try pressure cooking cabbage with green beans. Avoid the cabbage if it produces gas. Ripe avocados are acceptable with caution. Raw vegetables are not tolerated by the digestive system because of the fiber. Cooking reduces the fiber content. Do not drink raw vegetable juices. Canned 100% tomato juice is acceptable in moderation. Vegetables are of a minor importance, and those listed here should also be viewed with suspicion. Avoid any vegetable that gives an adverse reaction such as cramps, pains, or intestinal gas. Avoid all seasonings. Avoid large servings of vegetables. This diet is primarily meat, fish, and fowl with the natural fats.


I can't stop reading this.

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 Post subject: Re: Bible Life Ministries who funds this this anti veg group
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:00 am 
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Never eat lettuce.

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 Post subject: Re: Bible Life Ministries who funds this this anti veg group
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:09 am 
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I've always been cautious around ripe avocados. A fruit that's mostly fat? That's just suspicious.

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 Post subject: Re: Bible Life Ministries who funds this this anti veg group
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strawberryrock wrote:
I can't stop reading this.


Me too. I'm in a dark place right now.

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Bonus Myth No. 11 - People Are All Different.

This myth is so rampant that it just had to be added to the list of ten. The scientific design of the human body is held within very tight restraints. People are not different in the manner often claimed. Humans react in the very same way when they are given the same environment, same beginning health condition, and same nutrition.


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Though it appears that some people do well on little or no meat and remain healthy as lacto-vegetarians or lacto-ovo-vegetarians, the reason for this is because these diets are healthier for those people


Also, it appears that in a fit of temporary insanity he wrote this
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Are Vegetarian Diets Worse Than Terrorists?


Asking the important questions.

I have also enjoyed his advice to pregnant women, his thoughts on evolution, and the picture of him riding his bike.

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The vegan diet has a devastating effect on the hormones in the female as well. She soon looses her sex drive and fails to achieve an orgasm. She may drift into a lesbian relationship thinking her lack of arousal indicates she is gay when in reality it was caused by the deficient vegan diet.


THIS EXPLAINS EVERYTHING.

Ok I need to stop probably.

Though I don't see why not being aroused by anything would make you think you're a lesbian. What does this guy think lesbians do? (Hint: They have sex with each other.)

Wait one more.

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The vegan diet causes women to become domineering and obsessive compulsive controllers. They are always ready for a fight and look upon normal, submissive women in disgust. These vegan women like the wussie, vegan males because they enjoy bossing them around. Overbearing vegan women treat the vegan males in their lives like children, and the males accept it. Sick!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:21 am 
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strawberryrock wrote:
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Are Vegetarian Diets Worse Than Terrorists?


Asking the important questions.

I have also enjoyed his advice to pregnant women, his thoughts on evolution, and the picture of him riding his bike.


Then you'll love the picture he has on his Facebook page.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:25 am 
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Baby brains are not made from fructose.


This is one of my favorites. Also

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Bible nut job wrote:
The vegan diet wipes out the hormonal system in males. Their testosterone level plunges. The sperm count plunges, and they can't get it up -- erectile dysfunction (ED). They become impotent sissies. This is the reason vegan males become submissive to females and become homosexual. They can be seen carrying peace signs in demonstrations and are ready to surrender.

Priceless.

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So my diet made me gay? Interesting.

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 Post subject: Re: Bible Life Ministries who funds this this anti veg group
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Not only gay, but a sissy and a hippy surrender monkey to boot. Now eat some bacon and reverse that erectile dysfunction, for god's sake!

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 Post subject: Re: Bible Life Ministries who funds this this anti veg group
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:13 am 
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sophiagrt, to answer your original question. Carbohydrates should make up about 50-60% of your daily calorie intake. It's essentially the same for everyone, not specific to vegans. You should refer to the book Vegan for Life since you seem to have a lot of nutrition questions and the internet is just full of wrong answers. I don't want you to get steered in the wrong direction. An easy way to make sure you're eating the right proportions of foods, you can use the plate method like this: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionso ... t/pyramid/

Also, I don't really think the meat and dairy industries are that concerned about stopping people from being vegan. It's not a huge threat to them at this point. Hopefully someday it will be though!

Soy enriched potatoes are delicious!

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