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 Post subject: Rehtaeh Parsons: the latest most-horrifying news story
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:33 pm 
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I just learned about this. "Canada's Steubenville."

Absolutely awful and sickening.

I guess I already knew people could be cruel and malignant, but it's unpleasant to be reminded again

Huffington Post story

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 Post subject: Re: Rehtaeh Parsons: the latest most-horrifying news story
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:38 pm 
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Yes, I read about that in Pz Myers' piece on it and it made me sick.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... more-10390

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I do not understand
why she was raped,
why the men took photos of the act,
why they then distributed evidence of their criminal act,
why she was bullied for being raped,
why the men were not publicly shamed and ostracized,
and why the police could not find grounds for arresting violent criminals.
I simply do not understand.
It might be an inability to comprehend the human race. I’m thinking of joining another species.


Sums it up, really.

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 Post subject: Re: Rehtaeh Parsons: the latest most-horrifying news story
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:43 pm 
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I don't understand how they can not have enough evidence when there was a picture of her being raped on the internet. How is that not enough evidence? It is disgusting enough that this would even happen in the first place, but it becomes a whole new level of terrible when nothing happens to the people who did it.

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 Post subject: Re: Rehtaeh Parsons: the latest most-horrifying news story
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And when she's victimized for having been victimized.

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 Post subject: Re: Rehtaeh Parsons: the latest most-horrifying news story
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:22 pm 
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The part that I find so horrible is that here and in Steubenville, the girls were with their friends (male and female). And not one of the people they thought were their friends stopped the rapes or intervened, and their friends seem to have uniformly turned on them.

It must feel so isolating to know that you were betrayed by the people you trusted, your peers. I know I've gotten drunk thinking I was surrounded by friends and so I was safe.

Both cases are just horrifying.

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 Post subject: Re: Rehtaeh Parsons: the latest most-horrifying news story
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:37 pm 
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Photos posted to Parsons' Twitter account show the young woman partying with friends — marijuana or alcohol often in frame — along with images of her tattoos, cats and dogs.

How is that information relevant AT ALL to the story? Was that really necessary to add?

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 Post subject: Re: Rehtaeh Parsons: the latest most-horrifying news story
PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:39 am 
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Photos posted to Parsons' Twitter account show the young woman partying with friends — marijuana or alcohol often in frame — along with images of her tattoos, cats and dogs.

How is that information relevant AT ALL to the story? Was that really necessary to add?


Yes, that killed me. Because even if she was drunk and high, that is no excuse for rape. Nevermind the fact that these seem to be taken AFTER the incident, so they were probably a big part of her coping. But everyone knows that tattooed party girls just have it coming more than others.

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 Post subject: Re: Rehtaeh Parsons: the latest most-horrifying news story
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I'm so sick of the whole "they were all drunk" as an excuse. If i get drunk and kill people responsible for this, can i just say "well i was drunk so it doesn't count as murder"? Nope, that wouldn't cut it in court but apparently being drunk is enough reason to not even let a rape case make it to court.

ps: totally not gonna kill anyone, but reading stuff like this really *almost* makes me want to.

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I just can't. I am so sick of and sickened by this sort of thing.

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 Post subject: Re: Rehtaeh Parsons: the latest most-horrifying news story
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One of the mystifying things here is that, in my experience, the hacker subculture is pretty much one of the female hostile, mysogynistic around. Especially when I lived in the NL, my former fiancé had heavy connections, so we hung out with a lot of hackers and crackers. Most were pretty decent guys on their own (and they were mostly all guys), but as a pack--holy crepe I had to call them on shiitake constantly. "rape" was their favorite verb and they had these seemingly magical ability to be nice to the women in front of them (ie me) while simultaneously saying the most awful sexist things ever. Unless things have changed a lot, I'm guessing this might still hold true. So, why then, is a hacker group the only people who seem to give a shiitake about these girls and women?

Or maybe Anonymous is just all Angelina Jolie with bad lipstick, a good glare, and asparagus kicking boots.

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 Post subject: Re: Rehtaeh Parsons: the latest most-horrifying news story
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Anonymous isn't really a big unified group, the release they made mentioned that other Anon groups are working on finding the identities of the rapists and they might not promise to sit on it until the RCMP does something. There's definitely a good chunk of them who are very concerned about politics and justice.

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 Post subject: Re: Rehtaeh Parsons: the latest most-horrifying news story
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And another one. 15-year-old Audrie Pott killed herself after the circulation of pictures of her sexual assault.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/california-tee ... WiFQsqoC1l

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 Post subject: Re: Rehtaeh Parsons: the latest most-horrifying news story
PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:25 pm 
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California Teen 'Tortured' by Belief That Friends Sexually Assaulted Her Before Hanging Herself

The belief?

I really, really take issue with the way these rapes are reported in the media. I mean, it's nothing new but this really is pissing me off.

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 Post subject: Re: Rehtaeh Parsons: the latest most-horrifying news story
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This is another case where the victim was friends with her attackers. I just don't even get how someone you are friends with and cared for can do that to you. I know it happens all the time, but its just insane to me - but then I guess I'm not a rapist. They have photos that were circulated, and now the boys who are being charged are suspected of destroying evidence.

I hate this case and all of them. ]Its all so hideous. Not only do they violently attack someone against their will, but you add a helping of gratuitous humiliation and shaming. The people who should be ashamed are the rapists and the bystanders. Grrrrr arrrrrrgh

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 Post subject: Re: Rehtaeh Parsons: the latest most-horrifying news story
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Sadly this kind of story is all too common in Halifax.

It's a terrible loss for her family and the community. I really wish we could have done more, even if the police didn't.

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 Post subject: Re: Rehtaeh Parsons: the latest most-horrifying news story
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Jigglypuff wrote:
And another one. 15-year-old Audrie Pott killed herself after the circulation of pictures of her sexual assault.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/california-tee ... WiFQsqoC1l


Why does the story identify the victim by name but not the accused? Is it because she died? I'm confused.

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 Post subject: Re: Rehtaeh Parsons: the latest most-horrifying news story
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Maybe because deaths are part of the public record but names of accused minors are usually kept quiet? Usually rape victims names are kept out of the news as well and suspects are sometimes not named to preserve a larger jury pool.


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 Post subject: Re: Rehtaeh Parsons: the latest most-horrifying news story
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Audrie Pott's parents specifically asked to have her name and photo made public. Like with the Dehli rape victim's family, they wanted people to know what had happened and see her face. The Indian gov't refused to let the Dehli rape victim's name be released, but in interviews her parents talked about how people needed to see her and know she was a real person, not just an anonymous crime victim. Not sure if the Parsons family did the same thing.

I imagine its a different consideration if you are alive and just want to put it behind you and not have it come up constantly, which is why the Steubenville victim and the Central Park jogger etc are still anonymous.

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 Post subject: Re: Rehtaeh Parsons: the latest most-horrifying news story
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One of the girls I volunteer with found a "support the boys" facebook group where they defend the rape and seem to ignore the distribution of child porn. WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE.

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Shy Mox, that is... The worst. It makes me want to turn my brain off and hide in a hole.

"I know you must be going through a really hard time, what with no longer having that girl around to torture and bully. It's so rough for you that your victim committed suicide! Let me support you!" Puke.

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 Post subject: Re: Rehtaeh Parsons: the latest most-horrifying news story
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This is how brazen support for the boys is:

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Police were called on March 10 when three friends of Parsons were assaulted by six youths, including several of those identified by her as assailants. The three friends were sprayed with an irritant and one was knifed.

Three young men who used to attend Cole Harbour High told the newspaper that the boy who appears is the notorious photo "was bragging about it a lot" and that many students at the school fear for their safety if they speak out against the assault.


So now the people who assaulted and bullying her are attacking her friends to intimidate them into keeping quiet.
http://socialistworker.org/2013/04/24/c ... or-rehtaeh

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Maybe I'm being incredibly willfully ignorant here, but I simply don't recall the threat of such egregious sexual violence looming large in my high school experience, and for that I am immensely grateful. That's not to say the threat of rape was very far from my mind, or still is at the age of 33, but suffice to say that my teen years were difficult enough without the exacerbation of cell phone technology to capture, hasten, or amplify my various horrible experiences. The thought of being a teenager today is terrifying to me. It must be so challenging and scary to try and usher one's own children through that difficult time, especially nowadays.

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 Post subject: Re: Rehtaeh Parsons: the latest most-horrifying news story
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Tofulish wrote:
This is how brazen support for the boys is:

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Police were called on March 10 when three friends of Parsons were assaulted by six youths, including several of those identified by her as assailants. The three friends were sprayed with an irritant and one was knifed.

Three young men who used to attend Cole Harbour High told the newspaper that the boy who appears is the notorious photo "was bragging about it a lot" and that many students at the school fear for their safety if they speak out against the assault.


So now the people who assaulted and bullying her are attacking her friends to intimidate them into keeping quiet.
http://socialistworker.org/2013/04/24/c ... or-rehtaeh


This whole thing makes me so angry. And like B_A_D said upthread, it is an all too common story in Halifax.


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