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 Post subject: DOMA struck down
PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:15 am 
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DOMA ruled unconstitutional.

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And prop 8 was struck down! Yay for California!!! This is the best news day ever!

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I thought Prop 8 wasn't so much struck down as allowed to die. (The Supremes basically said the lower court stands.)

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Fantastic news :)

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I have cried and cried today. First Wendy Davis, then DOMA.

If we get do the same this side of the pond, I'd be the happiest.

By the way, if you want to see something beautiful, add a column on twitter for #DOMA


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That is such a relief. High five Supreme Court.

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So much good stuff today! I wish they hadn't punted on Prop 8, but it gets the job done for couples in CA. 30% of the country now lives in a state that allows same sex marriage!

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Well, my marriage is now meaningless. THANKS OBAMA.

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Good riddance, DOMA! Between this and Wendy Davis, I might just hold on to my last shred of faith left in humanity.

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I thought Prop 8 wasn't so much struck down as allowed to die. (The Supremes basically said the lower court stands.)


Pretty much. The SCOTUS said the petitioner (the anti-equality groups that sponsored and advocated for Prop 8) lack standing to challenge the ruling made by the lower court. In a legal context, "standing" is essentially having enough skin in the game to warrant being allowed to argue for or against something in court, so the SCOTUS essentially said that just being a bigot doesn't give you the right to come into court and argue against/for something your bigoted brain thinks is bad/good for no other reason than you are furthering your own bigoted agenda.

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Best day ever!

I wish there could be a parade.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:15 am 
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DOMA brief

Prop 8 brief

Well, there goes the sanctity of my heterosexual divorce.

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Best day ever!

I wish there could be a parade.

I don't know if this was a joke a or not so i'll pretend like it isn't! It's Pride week in San Fran Frisco! Saturday's the Parade!

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I was so happy about DOMA and Wendy Davis. But the Voter Rights Act was gutted, so now some states will make it hard for minorities to vote. I'm half happy half sad.


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 Post subject: Re: DOMA struck down
PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:50 am 
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jordanpattern wrote:
FootFace wrote:
I thought Prop 8 wasn't so much struck down as allowed to die. (The Supremes basically said the lower court stands.)


Pretty much. The SCOTUS said the petitioner (the anti-equality groups that sponsored and advocated for Prop 8) lack standing to challenge the ruling made by the lower court. In a legal context, "standing" is essentially having enough skin in the game to warrant being allowed to argue for or against something in court, so the SCOTUS essentially said that just being a bigot doesn't give you the right to come into court and argue against/for something your bigoted brain thinks is bad/good for no other reason than you are furthering your own bigoted agenda.



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So, who's gettin' hitched?!

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What does this mean in real-life terms? Is all of DOMA struck down, or just section 3? Does this encompass full faith and credit (i.e., can people married in states where it's legal move to states where it's not legal and have the same protections)? Or does this just mean same-sex married couples get federal benefits wherever they live but only get state benefits if they live in a state where it's legal?

Basically, what fights are still left?

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What does this mean in real-life terms? Is all of DOMA struck down, or just section 3? Does this encompass full faith and credit (i.e., can people married in states where it's legal move to states where it's not legal and have the same protections)? Or does this just mean same-sex married couples get federal benefits wherever they live but only get state benefits if they live in a state where it's legal?

Basically, what fights are still left?


Yeah, I think that if your state doesn't currently recognize the relationship you can't do state benefits. So, things like adoption, etc would still be complicated. But I imagine now, there will be momentum to change these laws in all but they most back-lashy states. Like the one I'm currently living in.

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ndpittman wrote:
Best day ever!

I wish there could be a parade.

I don't know if this was a joke a or not so i'll pretend like it isn't! It's Pride week in San Fran Frisco Frisco! Saturday's the Parade!

Yeah! We're going to the parade. It's going to be bananas!

I heard on the radio that eventually we're going to have a measure to do away with prop 8 entirely so there won't be any way to challenge the overruling. Good! I know a lot of people from my home town who voted for prop 8. They're very silent online today. I hope that means they know they're on the wrong side of history.

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