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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:46 am 
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Apparently an Indian fashion photographer thought it would be "edgy" to do a fashion photo shoot in the style of sexual harassment on a Delhi bus, "not at all like" the Delhi gang rape. Right. A number of people have called bullshiitake on the photographer; the BBC has a piece. Trigger warning might be needed for pictures of men grabbing women (from the photo shoot, not real life). http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-28670663


I'm actually speechless over that.

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I keep on re-loading the piece. I cannot believe the photographer (or anyone) thought it would be a legitimate project which would "shed light" on the issues Indian women face. (Obviously, dressing everyone up in expensive designer clothes with dramatic lighting makes it 1008% ok.)

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Apparently an Indian fashion photographer thought it would be "edgy" to do a fashion photo shoot in the style of sexual harassment on a Delhi bus, "not at all like" the Delhi gang rape. Right. A number of people have called bullshiitake on the photographer; the BBC has a piece. Trigger warning might be needed for pictures of men grabbing women (from the photo shoot, not real life). http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-28670663
This may actually be the most incomprehensibly terrible, awful, no good, very bad idea I have ever heard. What the actual living f*ck?

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No, see, it's also a searing social commentary, because... uh... rich people in designer clothes don't normally ride the bus...?

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Erika Soyf*cker wrote:
SEARING!!!


I get it now?

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I didn't know if I should put this in the feminism thread or the vegan pet peeves thread but here it is.
Painting the Farm Red: The Chicken-Slaughtering Pinup Girls of Marion Acres
by Rachelle Mathia for Modern Farmer

"Once a year, friends and family of Marion Acres gather up all the girls to do what we like to call our "Ladies’ Chicken Harvest." All the ladies get dressed in vintage clothes, pin-up inspired hair, and of course, red lipstick to do our butchering. We couldn’t think of a better way to knock em’ dead! "
*warning* the article contains pictures of dead chickens.

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The words "harvest" and processing" in the first paragraph turned my stomach so badly I couldn't bother with the rest.

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 Post subject: Re: Who challenges your feminism in your life?
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Ma'alik Richmond, one of the convicted Steubenville rapists is now back on the football team.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/convicted- ... otball-tea

And while I agree, that he was given a trial, served his time, and should be entitled to get on with his life, I wish the school were willing to send a message that rapists won't be lionized or allowed back onto a football team. You get kicked off the team for bad grades, but not for being a registered sex offender. It must be so hard for the victim, to watch him going back to his old life, while she can never go back to hers.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/20 ... et_on.html

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 Post subject: Re: Who challenges your feminism in your life?
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I love that headline: it's time to stop shaming the rapists. When, exactly, were they shamed? I blinked and must have missed it.

We'll be hearing from this kid again. If he had somehow suddenly developed remorse and grown at all, he would have found alternate arrangements for finishing his school and not gone immediately back to his football team.

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 Post subject: Re: Who challenges your feminism in your life?
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I don't know if we will. As someone said in another thread a while ago, bullies will often grow up, have normal lives and normal families, and sometimes not even feel remorse for what their victims went through, but see it as a normal part of school. Perhaps this will be the same for Ma'alik Richmond. He'll think of himself as the guy who got caught doing what everyone else was doing, and take better precautions next time (not be in photographs or videos or leave the party when that kind of stuff happens) and maybe he will grow up to just have a normal life.

The one thing that we can guarantee is that the victim's life is changed forever. I remember when j-dub posted that "rape breaks people" and I thought it was so dead on - even as you survive and move on, you always bear the scars, even if you don't see them, and you lose trust and are inevitably changed in the way you deal with others and move in the world and its social spaces.

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 Post subject: Re: Who challenges your feminism in your life?
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Ma'alik Richmond, one of the convicted Steubenville rapists is now back on the football team.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/convicted- ... otball-tea

And while I agree, that he was given a trial, served his time, and should be entitled to get on with his life, I wish the school were willing to send a message that rapists won't be lionized or allowed back onto a football team. You get kicked off the team for bad grades, but not for being a registered sex offender. It must be so hard for the victim, to watch him going back to his old life, while she can never go back to hers.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/20 ... et_on.html


Relatedly, there is this (old news to you? new news to me) about an Anonymous hacker who is facing more jail time than either rapist ..... for having circulated already public documents which the rapists themselves had put online.

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According to Huffington Post, the warrant left behind by the FBI agents indicates that Lostutte may be charged federally with "computer crimes," "aggravated identity theft," and "identity theft, attempt and conspiracy." According to Mother Jones, that could land him with a 10 year prison sentence.

Meanwhile, the two football players Ma'lik Richmond and Trent Mays, who were found guilty of raping the semi-conscious 16 year-old and distributing her naked photo online, were given one and two year sentences independently.


http://mic.com/articles/47177/anonymous ... he-rapists

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Well, this is pretty appalling:

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At an abortion clinic protester training at the Texas state capitol last week, anti-choice leaders told their trainees to write down the license plate numbers of abortion-providing doctors and abortion-seeking patients, so that they could track which doctors have admitting privileges at local hospitals and which patients did or did not ultimately choose abortion.


http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2014/ ... se-plates/

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The amount of victim-blaming after Christie Mack was beaten by her partner is stomach turning. Apparently a lot of people think that because of her choice of profession and choice to date a fighter, she "should have known" that her ex was likely to stalk, beat, and try and kill her.

"We wouldn’t blame a stuntman for getting hit by a car in real life."

Trigger warning: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... eaten.html

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Vyapti and I were actually able to have a good discussion about responsibility versus victim blaming. We all know what responsible behavior is. But once the crime happens the only person responsible for it is the criminal. Once that crime happens we must stop putting qualifiers in our language.

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A friend of mine lives in Egypt and shared the following:

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Here are some things that Dubai-based OSN Movies (TV) believes it's appropriate to say about women (at 3.45pm on a Saturday, no less.)

Context: A between-movie program highlighting, mostly, reviews of upcoming movies, but specifically a mini-segment focused on athletes who are participating in the Miss World competition.

1) "And that's how women justify being bad at sports." (After an archer missed a bullseye by a centimeter and said that she needed to adjust her sight.)

2) "I know I'd like to hit her with something in the bullseye." (Comment on the same archer by the voice-over announcer.)

3) "She's already tied herself down for you. It's like she's bought her own roofies!" (Comment on a ropes-course athlete by the same voice-over announcer.)

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The woman...was refused an abortion even though at eight weeks she demanded a termination, claiming she was suicidal. After she then threatened a hunger strike to protest the decision, local health authorities obtained a court order to deliver the baby prematurely – at around 25 weeks according to some reports – to ensure its safety.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/a ... ?CMP=fb_gu

Because fetus > actual, adult woman.

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The Children's Place isn't adding Gamora to their Guardians of the Galaxy shirt because the shirt is meant for boys. And you know, boys can't look up to any women /sarcasm. I guess boys can relate better to raccoons. There are people responding to their tweet on their facebook page.

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Desdemona: The Irish case is horrific. I still cannot believe that actual people are actual deciding to push (LEGALLY push!) that kind of nonsense.

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Editor replied to my email. His response is below. Having Female Prof (who won RFF) "join" the discussion still presents male postdoc's views as reasonable (cf. "climate change deniers" vs. scientist debates in the US). His view is not reasonable. I think it is inappropriate for a university-sponsored publication to print this piece, even if we make it clear that male postdoc's views are not the research cluster or university's. Thoughts?

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I'm not surprised by your response, I kind of expected you wouldn't like this. I agree that it is certainly on the edge, or perhaps slightly over it. But I am currently in doubt what is the best way of acting in this case. In particular, I also feel quite uncomfortable about for instance the WW2 example, and actually wrote male postdoc about that this weekend, suggesting alternative examples to illustrate the same point. However, he was rather clear that he didn't want to change it, although he appreciated my concern, and would understand that maybe we would want to add a statement that his opinion/column should not be considered as that of the research cluster/ university.

The reason why I asked male postdoc to write columns is because he has strong opinions and likes to write about various things, e.g. on facebook. In principle ideal for an edgy column that is sometimes controversial and stimulates discussion. As for his challenging view regarding 'positive discrimination', there is nothing wrong of triggering a discussion about that I think, although the way he phrases things might not be optimal/overly provocative. But it feels kind of wrong to mingle too much in that (language issues aside), more so than the constructively meant suggestions that I already offered.

Male postdoc certainly has a lot of guts to start such a discussion... The idea for the topic actually originated from a discussion on facebook about this between him and Female-RFF-grant winning Prof. One thing that male postdoc mentioned himself, is that Female Prof told him she would be eager to voice her opinion if he would bring this up in his column. To bring forward a more balanced discussion, we could indeed ask Female Prof whether she would be willing to formulate a response to his view. I had this possibility in mind for issue 96, but given your strong opinion about this, it might be better to publish that along with the current column, a possibility that again, male postdoc suggested himself. What do you think?



Editor in Chief is back from holiday, and decided the piece will be printed. +1 for the patriarchy. His notification (just to me) is below. Not sure what, if anything, I should respond with but I'm open to suggestions. Including removing myself from the editorial board.

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(The Board of Directors) all thought that Male Postdoc's text was controversial but suitable for publication in the Newsletter. I agree with them that a column is always on a personal account and often addresses controversial issues in a sharp way. Also I think that adding a statement of explicit distance or a response from someone else at this point would come across as overly defensive. (The husband of Female Prof) wrote to me that he was quite willing to write a response. If he does, we'll publish that in Issue 96 (rather than the current one). Hope you can live with that decision!

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So that TV segment I mentioned above? My friend caught it airing again and taped it:



He's asking that other people write letters to the network letting them know how offensive this is.


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Hey, Ladies! Catcalls are Flattering! Deal With It (subtitle: Post writer Doree Lewak loves earning the approval of construction workers whom many women would call "pigs," she writes).

http://nypost.com/2014/08/18/enough-san ... lattering/
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I imagine the catcall stretches back to ancient construction times, when the Israelites were building the pyramids, with scores of single Jewish women hiking up their loincloths, hoping for a little attention.
GAAAH. PLEASE TELL ME I'M IMAGINING THIS.

Here's a more articulate response than mine, from some sanctimonious, humorless (and probably not "hot," amirite?!) killjoy for whom summer means something beyond, "heat, hemlines and hard hats."

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/20 ... great.html

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Ugh, today what's challenging my feminism is the new Spider Woman. I mean, I'm used to seeing Escher Girls by now, but this is just plain disgusting (and poorly drawn, to boot). If the viewer were 180 degrees behind her she would quite literally be presenting like a cat in heat.

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"guys, can someone please just put a pencil eraser in there and give me some relief? Please?"

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So that TV segment I mentioned above? My friend caught it airing again and taped it:



He's asking that other people write letters to the network letting them know how offensive this is.

There's no way that's not satire right? He saw her doing silks and said "she might as well buy her own roofies." I think I'm rarely offended because I find it 99% more likely that something like that is satire than that people like that exist. This is one of those times I'm wrong and sad for it. My 99% is wrong too, but it's hard not to project my own world onto others. I never experience people like that.

If I was TRYING to be satirical I wouldn't have even thought of something that extreme. Wow.


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I went to the Home Depot this evening to get supplies for a messy home renovation project. We needed gloves and disposable jumpsuits. Well, apparently this big box warehouse store that sells a 90 of everything does not stock any of those items in a size smaller than a large. When I asked an employee they told me that they didn't carry smaller work gloves, but I could try the gardening section.

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annak wrote:
So that TV segment I mentioned above? My friend caught it airing again and taped it:



He's asking that other people write letters to the network letting them know how offensive this is.

There's no way that's not satire right? He saw her doing silks and said "she might as well buy her own roofies." I think I'm rarely offended because I find it 99% more likely that something like that is satire than that people like that exist. This is one of those times I'm wrong and sad for it. My 99% is wrong too, but it's hard not to project my own world onto others. I never experience people like that.

If I was TRYING to be satirical I wouldn't have even thought of something that extreme. Wow.



I haven't seen the entire broadcast, though it sounds like it was a short segment intended to be squeezed in the gaps between movies on an action movie channel...but I think it's more trying to be funny by shitting all over these women's legitimate talents and accomplishments. Anyway if it's satire, what is it satirizing? Reporting that takes women's sports seriously? (Yes, the bubble blowing thing is a little bit random, but it got her a scholarship and raised money for charity so good for her.)


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