| Register  | FAQ  | Search | Login 
It is currently Wed May 25, 2016 12:19 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 20 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: 'Fit, macho, sexy: The reinvention of vegans' (article)
PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 3:51 am 
Offline
Addicted to B12 Enemas
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:54 am
Posts: 231
Location: Manchester, UK
Did anyone see this in the Guardian? http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle ... s-bloggers

A lot of UK papers are reporting on veganism in general at the moment since a poll just revealed the (estimated) number of vegans in Great Britain.

I wrote a response here: https://spiceboxofearth.co.uk/2016/05/1 ... of-vegans/

_________________
Bloggy bloggy blog (food, crafts, dog, body positivity, stuff).
Be my pal: Twitter [oneateleven] Instagram [fifteenkeats] Snapchat [fifteenkeats]


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 'Fit, macho, sexy: The reinvention of vegans' (article)
PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 8:57 am 
Online
TOTALLY CRADICAL
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:42 am
Posts: 7052
Location: Smugville, CA
I only had time to skim both, but wow. Gross. I will definitely take a longer, closer look when I can (and try to keep from barfing).

Toxic masculinity, just what a movement based on compassion and community needs.

_________________
Sews Before Bros
Norton's Movie Maps


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 'Fit, macho, sexy: The reinvention of vegans' (article)
PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 9:02 am 
Offline
Addicted to B12 Enemas
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:54 am
Posts: 231
Location: Manchester, UK
Yeh, it might make you barf :/ But hopefully my response will give you some larfs though.

_________________
Bloggy bloggy blog (food, crafts, dog, body positivity, stuff).
Be my pal: Twitter [oneateleven] Instagram [fifteenkeats] Snapchat [fifteenkeats]


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 'Fit, macho, sexy: The reinvention of vegans' (article)
PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 9:06 am 
Online
TOTALLY CRADICAL
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:42 am
Posts: 7052
Location: Smugville, CA
who doesn't love some barfs-n-larfs!?

_________________
Sews Before Bros
Norton's Movie Maps


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 'Fit, macho, sexy: The reinvention of vegans' (article)
PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 9:07 am 
Offline
Addicted to B12 Enemas
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:54 am
Posts: 231
Location: Manchester, UK
Haaaaaaaaaa I didn't mean to make those rhyme but yeh. A larf-barf is the best kind.

_________________
Bloggy bloggy blog (food, crafts, dog, body positivity, stuff).
Be my pal: Twitter [oneateleven] Instagram [fifteenkeats] Snapchat [fifteenkeats]


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 'Fit, macho, sexy: The reinvention of vegans' (article)
PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 11:10 am 
Online
TOTALLY CRADICAL
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:42 am
Posts: 7052
Location: Smugville, CA
Quote:
and what do committed ‘real’ vegans make of the newcomers?

Awesome, right off the bat (this is from the subheader) let's pit vegans against each other.

Quote:
“I was one of the people who, when somebody talked about veganism, would start making bacon jokes,” he says, when I speak to the brothers over Skype. “That was me.”


Sounds to me like he's still that person at heart, he just bullies people in a different way now.

I loved your response, as well. I will have a hard time getting the image of being hosed down by cold lentil soup out of my mind, ha!

Whenever I see crepe like this, I just think of Audre Lorde: The master's tools will never dismantle the master's house. All these "Bros" have done is take the same, tired old script on masculinity and done a Ctrl+F to replace "bacon" with "tofu." They say they're reaching a broader audience that way, but let's be honest, is that the kind of audience veganism really needs? Don't get me wrong, the more vegans the better- but how exactly is one building a long-term ethical lifestyle if one doesn't examine the very roots of compassion, moral thinking, or the very concept that one type/class/category/expression of living and being is inherently superior or inferior to another? Simply said, one doesn't. Instead of changing veganism to keep these rutting frat boys comfortably ensconced in their scripted gender roles, let's change the bullshiitake dominant paradigm/attitudes that has allowed unchecked aggression to perpetrate things like factory farming in the first place. Veganism is for everybody, male/female/both/neither/other, skinny/fat/lazy/athletic, black/brown/white, rich/poor/middle class, animals AND humans. There's a difference between reaching a specific audience and stepping on someone else to lift yourself up, and these bros are definitely doing the latter.

_________________
Sews Before Bros
Norton's Movie Maps


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 'Fit, macho, sexy: The reinvention of vegans' (article)
PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 12:15 pm 
Offline
Grandfathered In
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:41 pm
Posts: 11384
Location: Seattle
Hegan for life!

_________________
Did somebody say Keep on rockin?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 'Fit, macho, sexy: The reinvention of vegans' (article)
PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 2:15 pm 
Online
TOTALLY CRADICAL
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:42 am
Posts: 7052
Location: Smugville, CA
Bros: Don't Go Vegan, Just Go Away.

_________________
Sews Before Bros
Norton's Movie Maps


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 'Fit, macho, sexy: The reinvention of vegans' (article)
PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 6:08 pm 
Offline
The Real Hamburger Helper
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:39 pm
Posts: 2344
Location: Missouri
FootFace wrote:
Hegan for life!


I was going to say, isn't this a trend piece that resurfaces every few years?

_________________
I was really surprised the first time I saw a penis. After those banana tutorials, I was expecting something so different. -Tofulish

The Themysciran - my geek blog


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 'Fit, macho, sexy: The reinvention of vegans' (article)
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2016 12:22 am 
Offline
rowdily playing checkers
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:53 pm
Posts: 3182
Brogans vs. hegans! Just to save time, here are some other one-point-makes-a-line trend stories for lifestyle journalists to mine:

Goregans - Politicians who go vegan for like a week
Chimchimchereegans - Vegan chimney sweeps with horrible fake accents
New Vegantics - I dunno, something about ruff shirts and hummus. Durian Durian? No, you suck.
Meatmeagans - Former vegans who are vegan

_________________
"Tits are inconsequential, but someone pass me that kitten" ~ papayapaprikás


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 'Fit, macho, sexy: The reinvention of vegans' (article)
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2016 2:58 am 
Offline
Addicted to B12 Enemas
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:54 am
Posts: 231
Location: Manchester, UK
Erika Soyf*cker wrote:
Instead of changing veganism to keep these rutting frat boys comfortably ensconced in their scripted gender roles, let's change the bullshiitake dominant paradigm/attitudes that has allowed unchecked aggression to perpetrate things like factory farming in the first place. Veganism is for everybody, male/female/both/neither/other, skinny/fat/lazy/athletic, black/brown/white, rich/poor/middle class, animals AND humans.


YES. I mean your whole comment was on point but yes. You should've written a response instead of me :D

I was probably being naive but I expected a little bit more from this newspaper in particular. I expect this guff from The Daily Mail, The Sun and that ilk...... But what sort of people is this rhetoric appealing to and who is it excluding? Ughhhhhh. Just......a whole barrel of no.

_________________
Bloggy bloggy blog (food, crafts, dog, body positivity, stuff).
Be my pal: Twitter [oneateleven] Instagram [fifteenkeats] Snapchat [fifteenkeats]


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 'Fit, macho, sexy: The reinvention of vegans' (article)
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2016 2:59 am 
Offline
Addicted to B12 Enemas
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:54 am
Posts: 231
Location: Manchester, UK
mumbles wrote:
Brogans vs. hegans! Just to save time, here are some other one-point-makes-a-line trend stories for lifestyle journalists to mine:

Goregans - Politicians who go vegan for like a week
Chimchimchereegans - Vegan chimney sweeps with horrible fake accents
New Vegantics - I dunno, something about ruff shirts and hummus. Durian Durian? No, you suck.
Meatmeagans - Former vegans who are vegan


I really need to steal all these great comments and append them to my post :D

I choose chimchimchereeganism 100%.

_________________
Bloggy bloggy blog (food, crafts, dog, body positivity, stuff).
Be my pal: Twitter [oneateleven] Instagram [fifteenkeats] Snapchat [fifteenkeats]


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 'Fit, macho, sexy: The reinvention of vegans' (article)
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2016 8:39 am 
Offline
The Real Hamburger Helper
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:32 pm
Posts: 2383
Yeah, using the word Bro immediately turns me off. Theirs is the very specific form of masculinity that I find difficult to deal with as it's the same as the boys I found attractive at school who would also call me a "forking queer" and spit on me. That whole performance of masculinity (which I now see as a hyper-masculine drag) makes me feel ill.

Mat.

_________________
Lady Gaga and Beyonce should run her over with the kitten Wagon for that one comment alone - Torque (speaking of Katy Perry)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 'Fit, macho, sexy: The reinvention of vegans' (article)
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2016 9:34 am 
Offline
WRETCHED
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:54 pm
Posts: 11355
Location: Maryland/DC area
Although the Vegan Bros are trying to reach a certain demographic, I figured they called themselves Bros because they are brothers.

_________________
You are all a disgrace to vegans. Go f*ck yourselves, especially linanil.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 'Fit, macho, sexy: The reinvention of vegans' (article)
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2016 12:56 pm 
Offline
Grandfathered In
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:41 pm
Posts: 11384
Location: Seattle
Gheegans (vegans who eat ghee)
Ve-gones (ex-vegans)
Megans (vegans who are named Megan/Meghan)
Squeegans (vegans who eat cute animals)
Briegans (vegans who eat brie and/or Brie Larson)
Regans (former-ex-vegans)

_________________
Did somebody say Keep on rockin?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 'Fit, macho, sexy: The reinvention of vegans' (article)
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 4:49 pm 
Online
Drunk Dialed Ian MacKaye
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:33 pm
Posts: 1988
Location: Reno
MEGANS. FootFace, you freaking kill me.

_________________
Youtube


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 'Fit, macho, sexy: The reinvention of vegans' (article)
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 11:27 am 
Online
TOTALLY CRADICAL
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:42 am
Posts: 7052
Location: Smugville, CA
FootFace wrote:
Megans (vegans who are named Megan/Meghan)


Until they're faced with peer pressure from some Cool New Friends and claim they feel weak and have to eat meat again even though they've previously completed three centuries as a vegan cyclist and pre-emptively dump all their vegan friends so they don't have to explain to them or possibly answer some tough questions.

Oh wait, sorry, that's just the Megan I knew. Carry on!

_________________
Sews Before Bros
Norton's Movie Maps


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 'Fit, macho, sexy: The reinvention of vegans' (article)
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 12:15 pm 
Offline
Banned from Vegan Freaks.
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:23 am
Posts: 340
That was a good write-up, Jenny, although I'll confess that I haven't read the original article (I'm in an anti-rage phase, and I think it might set me off.) I did download the Vegaphobia article for later, though.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 'Fit, macho, sexy: The reinvention of vegans' (article)
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 12:38 pm 
Offline
The Real Hamburger Helper
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:39 pm
Posts: 2344
Location: Missouri
Erika Soyf*cker wrote:
FootFace wrote:
Megans (vegans who are named Megan/Meghan)


Until they're faced with peer pressure from some Cool New Friends and claim they feel weak and have to eat meat again even though they've previously completed three centuries as a vegan cyclist and pre-emptively dump all their vegan friends so they don't have to explain to them or possibly answer some tough questions.

Oh wait, sorry, that's just the Megan I knew. Carry on!


I'm a Megan! And a little sad I can't make "Megan the Vegan" rhyme without horribly mispronouncing one of those nouns.

And I am too hardcore to cave to peer pressure. Friends? My only friends are the animals.

_________________
I was really surprised the first time I saw a penis. After those banana tutorials, I was expecting something so different. -Tofulish

The Themysciran - my geek blog


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 'Fit, macho, sexy: The reinvention of vegans' (article)
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 12:49 pm 
Offline
Brain Made of Raw Seitan
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:44 pm
Posts: 1260
Location: Jungles of America
Shy Mox wrote:
I'm a Megan! And a little sad I can't make "Megan the Vegan" rhyme without horribly mispronouncing one of those nouns.

I think the mispronunciation of "vegan" is permitted to rhyme in this situation, since, as I'm sure you're aware, the vegan band Propagandhi already made it popular a couple decades ago:


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 20 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Yahoo [Bot] and 3 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
Template made by DEVPPL/ThatBigForum and fancied up by What Cheer