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appifanie
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Post subject: Re: Fringe Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:21 am |
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ismloveyoubobbybrown wrote: philadelphegan wrote: They are falling into a Heroes-like hole here, IMO, by trying to make a central character out of damn near every character. Maybe I'm blinded by Fringe love, but as far as I can tell the show started out being mainly Olivia, Walter, and Peter, and it continues to be mostly about them. Indeed. Chill Phill. ;p
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philadelphegan
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Post subject: Re: Fringe Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:31 pm |
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ismloveyoubobbybrown wrote: Maybe I'm blinded by Fringe love, but as far as I can tell the show started out being mainly Olivia, Walter, and Peter, and it continues to be mostly about them. What I'm worried about is stuff like the recent amplification of the Broyles family story and the "re-introduction" of Observers, and all the subplots that haven't or haven't *yet* been re-introduced. Is Walter's book still a part of the plot? What about the army? And so on. With the move to Friday night I am on one hand worried about the desperation of the writers unraveling the future of the show; but on the other hand, I hope the move lowers the pressure so they can stay focused on writing a compelling narrative.
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philadelphegan
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Post subject: Re: Fringe Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:32 pm |
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appifanie wrote: Indeed. Chill Phill. ;p I'm just worried there might not be anymore redhead-liv.
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ismloveyoubobbybrown
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Post subject: Re: Fringe Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:02 pm |
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philadelphegan wrote: ismloveyoubobbybrown wrote: Maybe I'm blinded by Fringe love, but as far as I can tell the show started out being mainly Olivia, Walter, and Peter, and it continues to be mostly about them. What I'm worried about is stuff like the recent amplification of the Broyles family story and the "re-introduction" of Observers, and all the subplots that haven't or haven't *yet* been re-introduced. Is Walter's book still a part of the plot? What about the army? And so on. With the move to Friday night I am on one hand worried about the desperation of the writers unraveling the future of the show; but on the other hand, I hope the move lowers the pressure so they can stay focused on writing a compelling narrative. I really think the Broyles stuff was completely plot appropriate (especially with Alt-Broyles, it was clearly what motivated him to help Olivia escape), and I cannot see it being expanded on needlessly. I mean, I'm all about O, W, and P, but it's not ridiculous to give side characters SOME development. The Observers are in the background of every episode. It makes sense that they would come up again. I kind of assume there's a good chance they are the "first people," and besides that they've always been important to the overall story of Fringe. I'd be more upset if they didn't come back, not that they ever really left. They are clearly important, but I don't think they've ever (with the exception of that one episode where the observer saved a girl) been pushed to into main character status. I think you're talking about the book Bell wrote, and I think since discovering what "upcoming war" he was talking about and how he was preparing "the children" I'm not sure there's much more relevance. Though, I do think the whole mysterious group going around "activating" people could really use some further explanation. Actually, that's the biggest plot hole I've found in the show. Who the heck are these followers of Bell's book (minus the chapter on ethics), and what are they doing now that they've activated a bunch of people and things are clearly getting more serious betwixt the two worlds? (I only started watching this show at the end of last season and spent the better part of November watching my way through Season 1 and 2. So, this crepe is REALLY fresh in my mind.)
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appifanie
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Post subject: Re: Fringe Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:26 pm |
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Walter called her Fauxlivia! Awesome. That was a really good episode, of COURSE. I most loved when Walter was holding the whipped cream and told whatsherface at MD that he was thinking about her - mwahaha.
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appifanie
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Post subject: Re: Fringe Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:31 pm |
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Oh and I'm totally doing this to my house some day. 
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Post subject: Re: Fringe Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:46 pm |
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Best show on TV right now. Last night was so amazing.
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Thessaly
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Post subject: Re: Fringe Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:12 pm |
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yes! It was back to being awesome again. Can't wait to see where they go from here.
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Post subject: Re: Fringe Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:21 pm |
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Okay, I'm not buying the whole "Wah wah I just didn't want to be passive any more" thing. Peter was Over There for a long time-- what did they leave in his head?
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mel c
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Post subject: Re: Fringe Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:54 am |
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Is Fauxlivia pregnant or did I totally misinterpret that line?
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mel c
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Post subject: Re: Fringe Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:55 am |
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solipsistnation wrote: Okay, I'm not buying the whole "Wah wah I just didn't want to be passive any more" thing. Peter was Over There for a long time-- what did they leave in his head? I thought Walter and the episode title explained this?
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Post subject: Re: Fringe Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:03 am |
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OMGs. At the end of the episode before that, I'd already started thinking, what if the machine will only work because Peter drank the milk ??! Also, please no Atlantis story. Please.
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appifanie
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Post subject: Re: Fringe Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:17 am |
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mel c wrote: Is Fauxlivia pregnant or did I totally misinterpret that line? wha who wha? oy no!
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philadelphegan
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Post subject: Re: Fringe Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:44 am |
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appifanie wrote: mel c wrote: Is Fauxlivia pregnant or did I totally misinterpret that line? wha who wha? oy no! that would be a total sharkjump. is it just me or was it a LOT easier to spot the observer last week? groan.
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Thessaly
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Post subject: Re: Fringe Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:02 am |
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mel c wrote: Is Fauxlivia pregnant or did I totally misinterpret that line? Wait! What line made you think that? I can't remember what it would have been.
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mel c
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Post subject: Re: Fringe Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:50 pm |
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Thessaly wrote: mel c wrote: Is Fauxlivia pregnant or did I totally misinterpret that line? Wait! What line made you think that? I can't remember what it would have been. Right before Peter got zapped, the Observer said, "It must be hard, being a father." He could have been speaking about the decisions Walter had to make, but that wouldn't make much sense to say to Peter.
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Post subject: Re: Fringe Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:11 pm |
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mel c wrote: Thessaly wrote: mel c wrote: Is Fauxlivia pregnant or did I totally misinterpret that line? Wait! What line made you think that? I can't remember what it would have been. Right before Peter got zapped, the Observer said, "It must be hard, being a father." He could have been speaking about the decisions Walter had to make, but that wouldn't make much sense to say to Peter. oh, oh. OK, I remember now. I hope they don't add a baby to the mix, unless it's some kind of evil world destroying baby. Or it gets sucked into an alternative universe almost right away, Angel style.
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Post subject: Re: Fringe Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:18 pm |
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The whip cream scene is in my tops tv moments ever. right up there with hurley hot pocket.
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Post subject: Re: Fringe Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:49 pm |
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i am kind of in love with walter bishop, you guys.
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appifanie
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Post subject: Re: Fringe Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:23 pm |
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joanna wrote: i am kind of in love with walter bishop, you guys. totally allowed/expected/understood
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philadelphegan
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Post subject: Re: Fringe Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:17 pm |
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joanna wrote: i am kind of in love with walter bishop, you guys. Ditto, except replace "kind of" with "madly" and "walter bishop" with "redhead olivia". rawr.
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appifanie
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Post subject: Re: Fringe Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:07 pm |
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philadelphegan wrote: joanna wrote: i am kind of in love with walter bishop, you guys. Ditto, except replace "kind of" with "madly" and "walter bishop" with "redhead olivia". rawr. The sad longing text messages he sends me for redhead Olivia - you wouldn't believe. No one else wants a wall of pretty colored phones?
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Post subject: Re: Fringe Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:04 pm |
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appifanie wrote: No one else wants a wall of pretty colored phones? i very much enjoyed the wall of pretty colored phones.
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Post subject: Re: Fringe Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:09 pm |
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mel c wrote: solipsistnation wrote: Okay, I'm not buying the whole "Wah wah I just didn't want to be passive any more" thing. Peter was Over There for a long time-- what did they leave in his head? I thought Walter and the episode title explained this? Yeah, I thought at the end of the episode Walter basically says the machine "activated" Peter, too. On a Fauxlivia pregnancy, if what the observer said is about Peter being a dad it just has no context, whereas the observer was in the middle of testing Walter's "fatherhood." I really think he was talking about Walter.
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Post subject: Re: Fringe Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:10 pm |
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Yay!!! Can we all celebrate that I have caught up!!??? I did a super quick Fringe Marathon (from start to last episode) and in the past month i have put aside all responsibilities (sorry playground!) and done nothing but watch fringe in my free time.
Here are some thoughts- i was afraid pacey would get fauxlivia pregnant, but I bet a fetus wouldn't survive a jump.
I think the first people are the people from the other side. They started catastrophic events that made them have to jump to the other universe. They are more tech. advanced, right? I think the people hid the machine so folks couldn't gank up the world anymore. I am not convinced it is entirely walters fault the other side is falling apart. It might have something to do with the first people's crossing over. or maybe not.
so how about all the people in amber being in suspended animation? What about the people on the bus from the first season. Can they be reanimated?
Pacey needs to get back to normal real quick because I am sick and tired of not seeing any pacey whitter hugs and pacey whitter forehead kisses.
I love that they made a twin peaks reference in the violet sedan chair episode. (ps anyone else questing for the record? no luck here in austin!)
I lay awake at night thinking about fringe theories and about how I am in love with pacey and walter. I have been in love with pacey for almost 20 years though. Quack.
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