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Just discovered that someone I often carpool with is a creationist/intelligent design person. I guess I knew it, but it hadn't been confirmed.

She and I had a friendly, non-heated argument and I felt like I was going to lose my brains.

I'm not a scientist, but I do frequent a couple sites about evolution and about (incomprehensible) resistance to evolution. And all of this person's arguments were things I've seen refuted over and over again. But she has no idea that biologists have been sinking their teeth into these things for years. And years. They don't say, "Oh no! The evolution of the eye! We are stymied!" They say, "Not this again."

It reminded me of being asked "Oh yeah? Well, what about protein?"

And she and her husband are the backyard chicken people I recently mentioned.

Creationists blow my mind.

It has never happened to me that a person I respect comes out with the fact that they're a creationist, but if it did I think I'd have an existential crisis. I actually worry every once in a while that people are hiding that kind of thing from me.

IF MONKEYS TURNED INTO HUMANS WHY ARE THERE STILL MONKEYS LAWWWWWWL

Somehow arguing for creationism is the height of insanity (doing the same thing over expecting a different result insanity). Creationism has been so elegantly refuted, so often, that I sometimes think creationists argue just to argue.

God created backyards so people could put the chickens in them.

Glenn Beck came out as a creationist today on his radio show. He's "never seen a half-monkey/ half-man."

Half-monkey/half-man, heal thyself.

Kind of thing.

One day I want to go to the working farm dinosaur museum I saw on TV once. I don't think I'll ever make it that far though. It'd be funny.

I find it much more shocking that youre in a carpool.

I dated a guy once who outed himself as a creationist. it made my head spin.

I only know one creationist, a girl I went to high school with. A girl who, on Facebook the other day, said that the Vatican was wrong to canonise saints because you can't MAKE someone a saint. God just births them that way, and we shouldn't disrepect that.

you people who only know one or two creationists confuse me.

But its too easy to disprove evolution!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCiStLKzivM

Have you ever seen snails try to escape from the wrath of an all loving god?

Australia has no Bible belt. Sure, the country is packed full of racists. But they're athiest racists.

Or just too-drunk-to-care-about-life-questions racists. Yeah, probably that one.

Oh no! Are you going to be stuck in the car with her talking her crazy creationist talk every day?

I am so happy to say that I know no creationists! But I did find out that one of my work mates is all into The Secret. Yikes....

I don't get it, why don't they take credit for it? I mean, instead of saying "evolution is too elegant and logical, nooo god must have just magicked this shiitake out of thin air." they could say "holy shiitake, look how amazing our god is, he has set in motion a process that is simple and elegant and holy shiitake, look at the human eye, god's plan totally evolved that shiitake up in here, he was thinking ahead like woah"

p.s. I only know 2 creationists and they are both a little nutty.

But that would mean admitting that the Bible wasn't literally true... that perhaps, it was a metaphor (gasp!). I've always thought it was weird too, though.
I don't think I've ever met a Creationist, but there were some Jehovah's Witnesses at the train station handing out pamphlets the other day. They looked at me and quickly looked away. Guess they realised I was already doomed to hell.

I'm so glad I don't know any creationist. It would definitely make my jaw drop, and that's no elegant.

Once, I was with a group of friends, I said that people who don't believe in evolution are idiots (I was in high school). Of course, someone piped up that they couldn't believe that humans came from monkeys. And I was all, "Well, they're all idiots, except for you."
/tangentially related story

wow. Creationist and backyard chicken person combined. Lucky you.

I can't speak for numbers, but honestly, I only believe a small subset of Christians believe the bible is literally true and not full of metaphors and what not. They just seem to be the loudest ones out there. So I think there are a lot of people who believe in God/higher being/something else who also believe evolution was the method.

yeah, but i live in canada. i mean, granted, i work at (not for) a religious, very conservative college, and grew up in a very religious family, but still. i'm sure at least 30% of the people i interact with on a daily basis are creationists, or believe only in microevolution.

In the end, did you just agree to disagree? Or do you think she's going home with questions for the Of Pandas and People people?