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 Post subject: Comic about sexism on the internet
PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:35 am 
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A fairly accurate summary, I thought. It's pretty huge so I can't embed it. http://www.gabbysplayhouse.com/wp-conte ... sm-all.jpg

The only issue I have with it is that the "it's not sexist!" folks are all men, and the "yes it is!" folks are all women, when there's really a mix of both on every side.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:38 am 
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I haven't finished reading it, but I love when the guys are all hugging each other in a group, it says no homo small on the side. haha


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:43 am 
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forking amazing! My favourite thing in the world is when someone makes a really good political point using humour.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:48 am 
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joyfulgirl wrote:
I haven't finished reading it, but I love when the guys are all hugging each other in a group, it says no homo small on the side. haha

That really made me laugh too.

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 Post subject: Re: Comic about sexism on the internet
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Oh, there's a blog post to go with it: http://www.gabbysplayhouse.com/?p=1444

I liked the "granite monument to your dudeitational rightness."

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 Post subject: Re: Comic about sexism on the internet
PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:06 am 
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I liked the dejected cartoon face of the woman after reading her first comment. Made me laugh.


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 Post subject: Re: Comic about sexism on the internet
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She doesn't link to the original Kate Beaton dust up that inspired the cartoon (as best I can tell). The cartoon and Kate's original comment seem pretty spot on!
http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/20 ... mpliments/
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“dear internet, you are well meaning, but I’d like to make a point. when you tell a female creator you like her work so much you want to marry her and have her babies, you’re not doing anyone any favors. first of all, as cute as it sounds in your head, it’s a shitty, disrespectful ‘compliment.’ No one makes comics looking for sexual attention. secondly, by doing so you invite others to critique that person’s works based on their looks, which is uncomfortable, sexist and unfair.”


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 Post subject: Re: Comic about sexism on the internet
PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:28 am 
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I like it because it's true. All men are complete dicks.

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 Post subject: Re: Comic about sexism on the internet
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Thessaly wrote:
She doesn't link to the original Kate Beaton dust up that inspired the cartoon (as best I can tell). The cartoon and Kate's original comment seem pretty spot on!
http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/20 ... mpliments/
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“dear internet, you are well meaning, but I’d like to make a point. when you tell a female creator you like her work so much you want to marry her and have her babies, you’re not doing anyone any favors. first of all, as cute as it sounds in your head, it’s a shitty, disrespectful ‘compliment.’ No one makes comics looking for sexual attention. secondly, by doing so you invite others to critique that person’s works based on their looks, which is uncomfortable, sexist and unfair.”


She shouldn't link to that, though. There are too many comments from men agreeing with the idea that sexism is wrong and too many comments from women saying this is overblown.

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I get your point, but I don't think the intent of the creator of the comic was imply to that all men are sexist or made backhanded compliments like that. I think she was just trying to convey how the debate feels from the perspective of a female webcomic creator.


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 Post subject: Re: Comic about sexism on the internet
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Thessaly wrote:
I get your point, but I don't think the intent of the creator of the comic was imply to that all men are sexist or made backhanded compliments like that. I think she was just trying to convey how the debate feels from the perspective of a female webcomic creator.


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 Post subject: Re: Comic about sexism on the internet
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October 29, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Hey! The comic is good for showing some pretty reliable patterns whenever anyone goes near the old s-word, and how frustrating that can be! But there are many men who should be included with those who voice objection and plead reason, and many women on the side of the dudes in this comic. No issue is that cut and dry.

At least people are talking about it, though.

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October 29, 2010 at 1:58 pm
true true (and see my other comments above). comics just don't allow a lotta nuance sometimes...


So she acknowledges the flaws, asserts that mostly the debate splits down gender lines, and otherwise I think the comic can stand for itself as a fairly good representation of how sexism feels.

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 Post subject: Re: Comic about sexism on the internet
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This is good.

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 Post subject: Re: Comic about sexism on the internet
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 Post subject: Re: Comic about sexism on the internet
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 Post subject: Re: Comic about sexism on the internet
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 Post subject: Re: Comic about sexism on the internet
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 Post subject: Re: Comic about sexism on the internet
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Cute, but did the woman have to be portrayed as so drippy and apologetic? Women aren't doormats in arguments, saying "sorry" etc every 10 seconds.

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 Post subject: Re: Comic about sexism on the internet
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I guess comic aside, I can see how it's frustrating to keep getting comments like that from readers. And that's main issue at hand here.


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 Post subject: Re: Comic about sexism on the internet
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lavawitch wrote:
Cute, but did the woman have to be portrayed as so drippy and apologetic? Women aren't doormats in arguments, saying "sorry" etc every 10 seconds.


I did notice that, but didn't think about it until now. Good observation.


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lavawitch wrote:
Cute, but did the woman have to be portrayed as so drippy and apologetic? Women aren't doormats in arguments, saying "sorry" etc every 10 seconds.


I didn't read them as drippy and apologetic, more as weary from having this same argument ad nauseam.

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