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 Post subject: Scientists say dolphins are 'non-human persons'
PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:07 pm 
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A little bit of good news for Friday afternoon:
http://current.com/news/91825903_scientists-say-dolphins-should-be-treated-as-non-human-persons.htm


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 Post subject: Re: Scientists say dolphins are 'non-human persons'
PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:43 am 
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thats awesome. I wonder if it will reduce the amount of dolphins in captivity?


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 Post subject: Re: Scientists say dolphins are 'non-human persons'
PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:15 am 
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Such observations, along with others showing, for example, how dolphins could co-operate with military precision to round up shoals of fish to eat, have prompted questions about the brain structures that must underlie them.


This was one of the segments they showed a couple of times on the BBC Life series. One dolphin kicks up circles of sand from the ocean floor around a school of fish, and the other dolphins wait outside the circle. The fish panic because they can't see where they're going, and they attempt to leap over the obstruction--right into the waiting dolphins' mouths. Forking brilliant.

If this isn't an example of animals working in teams and employing reason, I don't know what is.


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 Post subject: Re: Scientists say dolphins are 'non-human persons'
PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:22 pm 
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fresh_paint wrote:
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Such observations, along with others showing, for example, how dolphins could co-operate with military precision to round up shoals of fish to eat, have prompted questions about the brain structures that must underlie them.


This was one of the segments they showed a couple of times on the BBC Life series. One dolphin kicks up circles of sand from the ocean floor around a school of fish, and the other dolphins wait outside the circle. The fish panic because they can't see where they're going, and they attempt to leap over the obstruction--right into the waiting dolphins' mouths. Forking brilliant.

If this isn't an example of animals working in teams and employing reason, I don't know what is.


True, I didn't read the article. But don't all kinds of animals work in groups? Lionesses coordinating their hunting? A pack of wolves? Ant societies!

It's certainly not unique to dolphins.

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 Post subject: Re: Scientists say dolphins are 'non-human persons'
PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:28 pm 
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I've been trying to call non-human animals by exactly that name to reinforce that we are animals too, I feel like making person-hood a special club and letting in dolphins doesn't do much to solve the problem of animal exploitation and torture as a whole, but it does help for dolphins, which makes me happy.

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 Post subject: Re: Scientists say dolphins are 'non-human persons'
PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:46 pm 
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This is a lovely article, but why did I read the comments? Why?

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 Post subject: Re: Scientists say dolphins are 'non-human persons'
PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:23 pm 
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I'm with Joan Dunayer on this one.

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