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 Post subject: "Herman Cain probably didn't sexually harass anyone"
PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:33 am 
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I find the story generally boring, but I always have CNN on as background noise and they have at least 3 people a day postulating that he is a touchyfeely person, and so casual and personable, and such a generally good guy that probably (paraphrasing) got taken the wrong way. It's kind of shocking! This isn't even Fox news.

If someone came in and said he probably did sexually harass someone(s), I don't think that would fly.

Anyway, the world is really sexist.

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 Post subject: Re: "Herman Cain probably didn't sexually harass anyone"
PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:38 am 
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It's not sexual harassment if *you* think the other person likes it, right? Right?

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 Post subject: Re: "Herman Cain probably didn't sexually harass anyone"
PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:05 pm 
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I've heard this a lot, too, and it peas me off, but I guess it doesn't surprise me that much. Too many people think that outwardly nice people can't be the same ones who sexually harass/assault/rape/etc.

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 Post subject: Re: "Herman Cain probably didn't sexually harass anyone"
PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:20 pm 
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I have a wide comfort circle for people I don't know (PPK not included). Still, I know there's a big difference between a compliment, pat on the back, or even a hug, and that no-touch/this is inappropriate to say zone.

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 Post subject: Re: "Herman Cain probably didn't sexually harass anyone"
PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:42 pm 
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These silly women don't even know when they're being harassed! Also, I just learned (again, on CNN) that since this isn't murder, it's only sexual harassment, people really need to make up their own minds on what really happened. See? Sexual harassment is in the mind of the beholder.

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 Post subject: Re: "Herman Cain probably didn't sexually harass anyone"
PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:17 pm 
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I thought it wasn't sexual harassment if you paid them hush money.

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 Post subject: Re: "Herman Cain probably didn't sexually harass anyone"
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Y'all, lawyers constantly throw money at women who weren't really sexually harassed. It's a service they do.


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 Post subject: Re: "Herman Cain probably didn't sexually harass anyone"
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mollyjade wrote:
Y'all, lawyers constantly throw money at women who weren't really sexually harassed. It's a service they do.

When do I get mine?

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 Post subject: Re: "Herman Cain probably didn't sexually harass anyone"
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I'm also surprised to learn that I'm supposed to think of Herman Cain as a good guy.

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 Post subject: Re: "Herman Cain probably didn't sexually harass anyone"
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 Post subject: Re: "Herman Cain probably didn't sexually harass anyone"
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I was a little annoyed by a radio report that, while otherwise fine, kept emphasizing how he derailed his campaign was, since he "had to deal with" this. Poor, poor guy. Can't campaign because he has to deal with these pesky allegations. Dealing with allegations is clearly the worst thing about sexual harassment.


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 Post subject: Re: "Herman Cain probably didn't sexually harass anyone"
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 Post subject: Re: "Herman Cain probably didn't sexually harass anyone"
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After dinner, the two were sitting in his car when she claimed he "suddenly reached over and put his hand on my leg under my skirt and reached for my genitals" and moved her head toward his crotch.

Wow. That's, uh, more than harassment.

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 Post subject: Re: "Herman Cain probably didn't sexually harass anyone"
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Wow. That's, uh, more than harassment.


So yeah. He didn't harass anyone. He just straight-up assaulted them. Much simpler.

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 Post subject: Re: "Herman Cain probably didn't sexually harass anyone"
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He's probably a good guy who just misread a few social cues.

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 Post subject: Re: "Herman Cain probably didn't sexually harass anyone"
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coldandsleepy wrote:
It's not sexual harassment if *you* think the other person likes it, right? Right?


It's only harassment until the other person orgasms. Then they'll thank you and it'll be all cool and stuff.

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 Post subject: Re: "Herman Cain probably didn't sexually harass anyone"
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I'm still mad about the Clarence Thomas thing.


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 Post subject: Re: "Herman Cain probably didn't sexually harass anyone"
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I'm still mad about the Clarence Thomas thing.


Me as well. I saw a news blurb today that said most republicans don't even care if he did sexual harass anyone, they would still vote for him.

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 Post subject: Re: "Herman Cain probably didn't sexually harass anyone"
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The following article comes with a trigger warning.http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2011/11/herman_cain_s_conservative_defenders_are_going_totally_overboard.html

Privalege. Ugh.

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 Post subject: Re: "Herman Cain probably didn't sexually harass anyone"
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So now there are five women who claim to have been harassed or worse by Cain. Maybe he can just stop pretending to run for president and take his Fox News gig now.

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Five women who can't take a compliment.

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 Post subject: Re: "Herman Cain probably didn't sexually harass anyone"
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You pay a girl a compliment nowadays, she runs off and gets lawyered up.


Going to use this phrase henceforth. "Can't talk, I have a hot date tonight and need to go get myself all lawyered up!"

Seriously though, really? That article made me hate everything.

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 Post subject: Re: "Herman Cain probably didn't sexually harass anyone"
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I was a little annoyed by a radio report that, while otherwise fine, kept emphasizing how he derailed his campaign was, since he "had to deal with" this.


Boo hoo.

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 Post subject: Re: "Herman Cain probably didn't sexually harass anyone"
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So now there are five women who claim to have been harassed or worse by Cain. Maybe he can just stop pretending to run for president and take his Fox News gig now.

Donna Donella is only alleging that Cain asked her to set him up on a dinner date with an Egyptian businesswoman. When Donella refused, he asked her out to dinner, which she attended along with two female colleagues. He stuck them with the bill, which apparently included two $400 bottles of wine.

Say Donna Donella five times fast.

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