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 Post subject: Blargh! Are chemical nutes vegan?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:49 pm 
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I feel like the answer is no for a few reasons, but I don't want to get into a big ol' shouting match with people, I just want to know how people feel about using "supernutes" as opposed to getting the N-P-K-Ca et al. from organic matter.

Obviously, I don't want to use the commercial organic stuff because it is likely derived from animal waste. Then again, I'm not opposed to using worm castings. Blargh.

Actually, the more I read about Potassium Nitrate, Monopotassium Phosphate, Magnesium Nitrate, et al. the less I want to use these products. But technically, they aren't animal derived. Would you use these? One container I was looking at had the following warning:

The application of fertilizers containing molybdenum may result in forage crops containing levels of molybdenum which are toxic to ruminant animals.

Boo. Chemistry people, help a sister out by explaining all this shiitake. My degree is in art and my heart is in gardening.

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 Post subject: Re: Blargh! Are chemical nutes vegan?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:58 pm 
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Most chem ones are from petroleum right? So, yeah, vegan but maybe not so ethical? Some may be linked to companies that animal test as well? But that's just an unresearched guess. I used chem crepe for my experiment since I figured compost nutrients would be too variable.

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 Post subject: Re: Blargh! Are chemical nutes vegan?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:43 pm 
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i use urea, only because i had the process explained to me by a client, who was the chemical engineer responsible for a plant that basically takes leftover post-diesel slag, runs it through a rube goldberg contraption, and at the end it reacts with air to make urea. (i had thought urea was from urine, silly me.) It's the only one I sort of understand, and the only thing i use in the garden aside from lime (which is also simple enough for me to get).

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 Post subject: Re: Blargh! Are chemical nutes vegan?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:14 pm 
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While neither environmentally sound nor organic, technically they are vegan, but not veganic (vegan organic.) Is your issue that you want something faster acting than granite dust, greensand, dolomite lime, etc? These all are technically inorganic and vegan(since they're mineral rather than vegetable) but allowed under organic standards. I realize these don't include nitrogen, but I know you're aware of lots of vegan organic nitrogen sources.

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 Post subject: Re: Blargh! Are chemical nutes vegan?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:50 am 
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Re: aminochelated=I just like the idea that the food is readily available to the plant and the results are quicker. I do not like leaching into the soil, so I'll just stick to veganic practices instead.

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