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 Post subject: Re: Never argue with an anarchist.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:25 pm 
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WeeptoWatertheTrees wrote:
This thread bums me out. Too many misconceptions and generalizations. Take "anarchist" out of this topic and insert "vegan" and it takes on full form of an annoying anti-vegan rant.

So I met this one vegan once and that person was a jerk! Well, then.

Anyone who rejects hierarchies and oppression should reject species privilege. If they do not that is really unfortunate, but it is in no way a reflection of anarchist philosophy.


I did state in the original post that I'm sure a lot of anarchists aren't like this. Just every single one I've ever had a conversation with. I haven't met one just this once--it's been enough to form a pattern, so I've just learned not to argue with them anymore, because it has been fruitless for me in the past.

The same can be said for vegans. There are some of us who are perfectly nice, non-judgmental people. But it has to be acknowledged that there are also an awful lot who are self-righteous crassholes, and those are the ones who can't keep their mouths shut and give the rest of us a bad name.


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 Post subject: Re: Never argue with an anarchist.
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 Post subject: Re: Never argue with an anarchist.
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fresh_paint wrote:

I did state in the original post that I'm sure a lot of anarchists aren't like this. Just every single one I've ever had a conversation with. I haven't met one just this once--it's been enough to form a pattern, so I've just learned not to argue with them anymore, because it has been fruitless for me in the past.



If you ever have to start a conversation with the disclaimer, "I'm sure not all __________ are like this, but through my personal, anecdotal experience, I'm going to make the sweeping generalization that __________ are dickwads," you probably shouldn't start that conversation.


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 Post subject: Re: Never argue with an anarchist.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:37 pm 
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WeeptoWatertheTrees wrote:
This thread bums me out. Too many misconceptions and generalizations. Take "anarchist" out of this topic and insert "vegan" and it takes on full form of an annoying anti-vegan rant.

So I met this one vegan once and that person was a jerk! Well, then.

Anyone who rejects hierarchies and oppression should reject species privilege. If they do not that is really unfortunate, but it is in no way a reflection of anarchist philosophy.



mel c wrote:
: If you ever have to start a conversation with the disclaimer, "I'm sure not all __________ are like this, but through my personal, anecdotal experience, I'm going to make the sweeping generalization that __________ are dickwads," you probably shouldn't start that conversation.


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 Post subject: Re: Never argue with an anarchist.
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fresh_paint wrote:
WeeptoWatertheTrees wrote:
This thread bums me out. Too many misconceptions and generalizations. Take "anarchist" out of this topic and insert "vegan" and it takes on full form of an annoying anti-vegan rant.

So I met this one vegan once and that person was a jerk! Well, then.

Anyone who rejects hierarchies and oppression should reject species privilege. If they do not that is really unfortunate, but it is in no way a reflection of anarchist philosophy.


I did state in the original post that I'm sure a lot of anarchists aren't like this. Just every single one I've ever had a conversation with. I haven't met one just this once--it's been enough to form a pattern, so I've just learned not to argue with them anymore, because it has been fruitless for me in the past.

The same can be said for vegans. There are some of us who are perfectly nice, non-judgmental people. But it has to be acknowledged that there are also an awful lot who are self-righteous crassholes, and those are the ones who can't keep their mouths shut and give the rest of us a bad name.


Thing is, the person you were talking about isn't actually an anarchist. Just someone appropriating an identity.

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 Post subject: Re: Never argue with an anarchist.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:44 am 
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Oh the irony, now fresh_paint is arguing with anarchists!

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 Post subject: Re: Never argue with an anarchist.
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This reminds me of the Eddie Izzard bit about transvestites.

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Also, if you're a transvestite, you get lumped into that weirdo grouping, you know? When I was in New York, there was a guy in the Bronx who was living in a cave, like you do, and he was coming out and shooting at gooses and… a lot of weird things going on with this guy; and the police picked him up and they found a collection of women's shoes, and they thought, "Maybe he's a transvestite.” And if he is, he's a forking weirdo transvestite! I'm much more in the executive transvestite area. Travel the world, yes, it's much more executive. Like J. Edgar Hoover, what a fiddlehead fern he was! They found out when he died that he was a transvestite, and they go, "Well, that explains his weird behavior!" Yeah, forking weirdo transvestite! <pointing to himself> Executive transvestite.


Sorry if I offended anyone with my sweeping generalizations.

Feel free to come to the conclusion that all fresh_paints are douchebags.


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