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 Post subject: Re: Opt Out Day
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:50 pm 
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Today's TSA Pornoscanner Round-up:

Woman says she was sexually assaulted by the TSA


Wait. Did I read this article correctly? They put their hands inside your underwear and pat you down inside of it?


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She felt along my waistline, moved behind me, then proceeded to feel both of my buttocks. She reached from behind in the middle of my buttocks towards my vagina area…

She then moved in front of my (sic) and touched the top and underneath portions of both of my breasts…

She then felt my inner thighs and my vagina area, touching both of my labia…


Doesn't sound like it's outside the underwear to me. But whatever. It's still intrusive and I totally get people not wanting to go through this.

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 Post subject: Re: Opt Out Day
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:52 pm 
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Well, I'm glad for this small thing. I'm opting out and I am taking the cancer ray opt out letter with me and showing to the people around me at the airport on the 24th.

This is exciting! Tell us how it goes. I'm so inspired by that guy's experience- it sorta makes me wish I was flying so I could do it.
Except for, you know, all this bullshiitake you have to deal with. Good luck!


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 Post subject: Re: Opt Out Day
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:08 pm 
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FootFace wrote:
celyn wrote:
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Today's TSA Pornoscanner Round-up:

Woman says she was sexually assaulted by the TSA


Wait. Did I read this article correctly? They put their hands inside your underwear and pat you down inside of it?


the article wrote:
She felt along my waistline, moved behind me, then proceeded to feel both of my buttocks. She reached from behind in the middle of my buttocks towards my vagina area…

She then moved in front of my (sic) and touched the top and underneath portions of both of my breasts…

She then felt my inner thighs and my vagina area, touching both of my labia…


Doesn't sound like it's outside the underwear to me. But whatever. It's still intrusive and I totally get people not wanting to go through this.


I'm pretty sure it's outside, but you can still sexually assault a clothed person.


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 Post subject: Re: Opt Out Day
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:20 pm 
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Some people (reddit again) were suggesting men should wear kilts, no underwear, and get really sweaty. A great form of nonviolent protest

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 Post subject: Re: Opt Out Day
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:25 pm 
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Not everyone wears pants, though. I'm already thinking no more dresses or skirts for flying.

i always wear dresses+leggings+cardigan+huge scarf when I fly because it's the comfiest, but yeah, thats probably a bad idea.

Unlessssssssssss I change in the bathroom after security. I'm sure that's somehow against some rule somewhere.

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 Post subject: Re: Opt Out Day
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:06 pm 
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mel c wrote:
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celyn wrote:

Wait. Did I read this article correctly? They put their hands inside your underwear and pat you down inside of it?


the article wrote:
She felt along my waistline, moved behind me, then proceeded to feel both of my buttocks. She reached from behind in the middle of my buttocks towards my vagina area…

She then moved in front of my (sic) and touched the top and underneath portions of both of my breasts…

She then felt my inner thighs and my vagina area, touching both of my labia…


Doesn't sound like it's outside the underwear to me. But whatever. It's still intrusive and I totally get people not wanting to go through this.


I'm pretty sure it's outside, but you can still sexually assault a clothed person.



I didn't say anything about her calling it sexual assault, and I don't disagree! I asked because if someone was going to put their fingers directly on my vagina next week, I think it is even worse than if there is a minimal barrier. I wanted to be prepared.


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 Post subject: Re: Opt Out Day
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:08 pm 
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okay, well now I'm starting to freak out about the 4 plane trips I'm taking in the next month! I guess I"m glad I'm taking amtrak down to DC.

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 Post subject: Re: Opt Out Day
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:11 pm 
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okay, well now I'm starting to freak out about the 4 plane trips I'm taking in the next month! I guess I"m glad I'm taking amtrak down to DC.


Oh, I'm sure I'll be taking an anti-anxiety pill before I go.

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 Post subject: Re: Opt Out Day
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:15 pm 
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This is amazing...except awful bc it's mostly true. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXDLQPfq ... r_embedded

Best is just the random "9/11"...."9/11"

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 Post subject: Re: Opt Out Day
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:37 pm 
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what i want to know is, though, do the fondlers have to change their gloves between passengers? i'd feel gross being violated after someone with a nasty STD was fondled. (yet another reason to wear a bulky pad.)


nope, new gloves per person...after they have felt ya they put the gloves in a little machine that tests for explosive chemical residue on the gloves (maybe drug stuff too?)

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 Post subject: Re: Opt Out Day
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:44 pm 
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Adam Crisis wrote:
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what i want to know is, though, do the fondlers have to change their gloves between passengers? i'd feel gross being violated after someone with a nasty STD was fondled. (yet another reason to wear a bulky pad.)


nope, new gloves per person...after they have felt ya they put the gloves in a little machine that tests for explosive chemical residue on the gloves (maybe drug stuff too?)

Terrorists and drug mules in one fell swoop!


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 Post subject: Re: Opt Out Day
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:47 pm 
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i dont think they screen that much for drugs anymore, I have plenty of friends who bring shiitake on planes all the time, and I was real dumb one time and accidentally left stuff in my suitcase and they even went through it because i had a buttload of change in containers that had broken open...or maybe i was just lucky.

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 Post subject: Re: Opt Out Day
PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:16 am 
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You were just lucky. I've seen dogs sniff out apples in bags from international flights.

True story: This lady standing next to me at the baggage claim had a security guy and a german shepherd sniff around her and they asked her to open her bag. Asked her all sorts of nerve-wracking questions like where she was staying in Pennsylvania, why, who she knew there, etc. It came down to the fact that she had once had an apple in her bag back in Amsterdam, but ate it before she got on the plane. I actually think the dog was smelling my bag because I'd packed apples, oranges, and bananas and didn't eat them all on the plane. He didn't come after me, but I went in the bathroom and disposed of them before going through customs. I felt really sneaky and dirty and bad about getting the old lady in trouble.


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 Post subject: Re: Opt Out Day
PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:23 am 
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I'm not flying anytime soon, but the stories coming out are really disturbing me. The TSA agent sliding her hand around that woman's pants and touching her labia? forking terrible.


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 Post subject: Re: Opt Out Day
PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:13 am 
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But they don't usually have the dogs out for domestic flights. I've always wondered how they knew about drugs people might have on them.

I wonder if the TSA agents are trained to sniff out vicodin

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 Post subject: Re: Opt Out Day
PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:35 pm 
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I got the full pat down when I flew while wearing a walking cast. If I'd have known how invasive it was I would've taken the boot off and hobbled through the metal detector on one foot. I was half expecting them to look in my asparagus with a flashlight. I truly wish I could summon up a fart on command because I would have. They also stuck one of those swab things that they use on your luggage up the cast. I'm not entirely sure what the swabs test for but I suppose they were making sure that my foot wasn't a bomb or drugs.

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 Post subject: Re: Opt Out Day
PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:40 pm 
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Fee wrote:
I wonder if the TSA agents are trainted to sniff out vicodin

Probably mostly illegal drugs, so you're safe.
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I truly wish I could summon up a fart on command because I would have. They also stuck one of those swab things that they use on your luggage up the cast. I'm not entirely sure what the swabs test for but I suppose they were making sure that my foot wasn't a bomb or drugs.

I wish you could have farted on them, too. And I'm glad your foot isn't a bomb or drugs. This is ridiculous.
Sorry they got all up in your asparagus, that must have been horrible.


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 Post subject: Re: Opt Out Day
PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:12 pm 
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My embarrassing/terrifying amount of unsecured debt consists exclusively of non-money that I spent buying airplane tickets and traveling the world. I will be paying off said debt for probably ten years or more, and I do not care at all because being in a giant metal tube 35,000 feet in the air traveling 500MPH is awesome and fun and magical. NO MORE.

I can't possibly travel via air until this all goes away, even if that means never again. How many more ways can the terrorists win? It blows my mind that America is collectively shitting its pants while agreeing to be x-rayed and/or fondled by TSA agents in the name of "safety." Safety from what? All attempted terrorist attacks involving airplanes that have been foiled have been foiled mid-air, by passengers. Grabbing someone's junk or looking down their pants isn't going to stop them from doing what they want to do, it's just going to make them more inventive.

I have tickets to see every one of Dismemberment Plan's reunion shows on the east coast in January. Who wants 'em?

PS: I've never seen a dog in an airport. Are you allowed to pet them?

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 Post subject: Re: Opt Out Day
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PS: I've never seen a dog in an airport. Are you allowed to pet them?

You can't pet the cute doggies while they're working.


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 Post subject: Re: Opt Out Day
PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:48 pm 
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But you can pet them during their cigarette breaks. They might find it a little condescending, though.

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But they don't usually have the dogs out for domestic flights. I've always wondered how they knew about drugs people might have on them.

I wonder if the TSA agents are trainted to sniff out vicodin


unless you have 200 pills on you or more, i wouldnt worry...they are trained to sniff out hamtube though

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 Post subject: Re: Opt Out Day
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:22 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Opt Out Day
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More logic.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:58 pm 
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Did I miss somewhere who is making money off of these scanners?


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