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I am about to make a stand even more controversial than my decision to not care very much about whether I eat honey or not:

I don't think agave nectar tastes anything like honey.

just checked, my plain enriched soy dream has vitamin D. soy dream does make a non-enriched version

when we were little, my dad used to bring home hunks of honeycomb sometimes and hand us pieces of it, and we'd be like, "dad, we don't want it," and he'd be like, "no, it's so good, you want it, just eat it," and we'd be like, "but can we just lick off the honey?" even though we didn't like the honey anyway, and he'd be like, "no, it's so good! you like it! chew it like gum!" and we'd eat it but we'd hate it and we'd cry and dribble honey and angry kid spit and tears all over our oshkosh b'goshes. so i say honey tastes like blarrrgggh and wounded confusion and impotent rage, and agave tastes like something else that is clean and sweet and so much better, and i'm glad they have almost nothing in common.

Yeah but if it's D2 it's plant source. It's D3 you have to watch out for. If it's soy milk I generally assume D2 unless specified otherwise. Especially if it's labeled as 'vegan' somewhere.

I really don't care too much about the ethical implications of eating honey. They're f'n bees. However, I don't eat honey ever because honey is by definition NOT vegan and it's ridiculously easy to avoid. If you're going to do something do it right. Avoiding honey is doing vegan right.

In Australia, pretty much anything fortified with vitamin D is animal-based.. Soy yoghurt, soy milk, etc.

when we were little, my dad used to bring home hunks of honeycomb sometimes and hand us pieces of it, and we'd be like, "dad, we don't want it," and he'd be like, "no, it's so good, you want it, just eat it," and we'd be like, "but can we just lick off the honey?" even though we didn't like the honey anyway, and he'd be like, "no, it's so good! you like it! chew it like gum!" and we'd eat it but we'd hate it and we'd cry and dribble honey and angry kid spit and tears all over our oshkosh b'goshes.

I might have to try that "honey" recipe! My soy milk of choice is the Woolies Macro one which doesn't contain any vitamin D - neither does the VitaCafé I have in the cupboard. Which brands are fortified? Nuttelex contains vegetable-based D & I'm trying to think if there's anything else I use that's fortified with vitamin D that doesn't have "suitable for vegans" written on it!

i honestly have no idea if my soy dream enriched soy milk has the words 'vegan' anywhere on it... i'll have to check.....

...I like to chew on beeswax. I haven't in years, but it's kind of weirdly fun.

Recently I had a few people give me crepe over not eating honey. They claimed that if I ate local honey within a 5 mile radius of where I live it would do wonders for my allergies. I have no idea if this is true or not. But I don't care, I'm not adding honey back into my life. Even before being vegan I never really used it for much of anything. I think I used to add it to tuna which I don't eat anymore, so there you go!

By Susan Davis
WebMD the Magazine - FeatureReviewed by Laura J. Martin, MDIn every issue of WebMD the Magazine, we ask experts to answer readers' questions about a wide range of topics, including some of the most cherished medical myths out there. For our March/April 2012 issue, we talked to Michael Palumbo, MD, an allergist with Allergy & Clinical Immunology Associates in Pittsburgh, about the popular idea that honey helps prevent allergies.

Q: Can local honey help my allergies?

A: No. The theory that taking in small amounts of pollen by eating local honey to build up immunity is FALSE.

Here's why: It's generally the pollen blowing in the wind (released by non-flowering trees, weeds, and grasses) that triggers springtime allergies, not the pollen in flowers carried by bees. So even local honey won’t have much, if any, of the type of pollen setting off your allergies.

Studies show bees don’t just bring flower pollen back to their honeycomb. They bring "tree and grass pollen, in addition to mold spores, diesel particles, and other contaminants," says Palumbo. The problem is that it’s difficult to make a honey from just one kind of pollen (say, weeds and not grass). So, save your local honey for your tea and toast, not for your allergy medicine cabinet.

I think of honey as bee barf....like a whole bottle of honey must have come from a bee fraternity kegger or something.

I'd much prefer to do vegan wrong. And then write a blues song about it. Vegan Done Wrong Blues.

By Susan Davis
WebMD the Magazine - FeatureReviewed by Laura J. Martin, MDIn every issue of WebMD the Magazine, we ask experts to answer readers' questions about a wide range of topics, including some of the most cherished medical myths out there. For our March/April 2012 issue, we talked to Michael Palumbo, MD, an allergist with Allergy & Clinical Immunology Associates in Pittsburgh, about the popular idea that honey helps prevent allergies.

Q: Can local honey help my allergies?

A: No. The theory that taking in small amounts of pollen by eating local honey to build up immunity is FALSE.

Here's why: It's generally the pollen blowing in the wind (released by non-flowering trees, weeds, and grasses) that triggers springtime allergies, not the pollen in flowers carried by bees. So even local honey won’t have much, if any, of the type of pollen setting off your allergies.

Studies show bees don’t just bring flower pollen back to their honeycomb. They bring "tree and grass pollen, in addition to mold spores, diesel particles, and other contaminants," says Palumbo. The problem is that it’s difficult to make a honey from just one kind of pollen (say, weeds and not grass). So, save your local honey for your tea and toast, not for your allergy medicine cabinet.

In my husband's case it IS true! Sometimes science doesn't explain everything.
I'm sure it doesn't help every single person, nothing does.