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 Post subject: Re: US elections - 2012
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:56 pm 
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I kinda hope they keep believing they lost the popular vote because maybe we WILL finally get rid of electoral college? (or make all states proportionate?)

I think the electoral college is mandated in the Constituion? But even if it's not, I'd hate it to switch to popular vote, then the "losing" candidate would probably ask for recounts in tons of places in hopes of making up the (usually) small percentage of total votes he/she lost by. I think it would be a horrible situation. Also, if all states were weighted equally, it would be as unfair as it is right now. I'm not sure what the answer is, but I do think voting reform is necessary. There should be equal access to everyone (equal number of machines, equal time to vote, etc.) and no attempts to decrease voter turnout.

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 Post subject: Re: US elections - 2012
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:58 pm 
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- God is in control of things and he will make things right (but he apparently wasn't in control enough to let Mitt win...so is it part of his plan or isn't it?)

But see, Mitt Romney is a Mormon, so God didn't like either one...the Mormon or the closet Muslim;)

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 Post subject: Re: US elections - 2012
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:04 pm 
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I can't believe that the week that the GOP loses the presidential election, which was rife with voter suppression issues and racism, SCOTUS agrees to hear a challenge to the Voting Rights Act.

I can believe it and I'm afraid of the current SCOTUS. I hope Obama can get some more progressive judges on there SOON!

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 Post subject: Re: US elections - 2012
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lycophyte wrote:
I kinda hope they keep believing they lost the popular vote because maybe we WILL finally get rid of electoral college? (or make all states proportionate?)

I think the electoral college is mandated in the Constituion? But even if it's not, I'd hate it to switch to popular vote, then the "losing" candidate would probably ask for recounts in tons of places in hopes of making up the (usually) small percentage of total votes he/she lost by. I think it would be a horrible situation. Also, if all states were weighted equally, it would be as unfair as it is right now. I'm not sure what the answer is, but I do think voting reform is necessary. There should be equal access to everyone (equal number of machines, equal time to vote, etc.) and no attempts to decrease voter turnout.



Well, then do as I said, making states proportionate for electoral votes, so if the vote went 48%, 51% and 1% each candidate would get that many of the state's electoral votes. That way 3rd party candidates might even get some electoral votes.

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 Post subject: Re: US elections - 2012
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http://abcnewsradioonline.com/politics- ... z2C21Z3CSN but of course then there is this. Obama saying he's not going to do anything about gay marriage. At least get rid of DOMA or something!

ETA- however this was recorded before the election...maybe the recent votes will change his mind on moving on this?

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 Post subject: Re: US elections - 2012
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 Post subject: Re: US elections - 2012
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I think Texas wanting to secede is hilarious. Sure, we'll let you secede, once your oil runs out. Then secede all you want.

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 Post subject: Re: US elections - 2012
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HA! I love this. You can make a very similar one for Canada and most countries in Europe.

I get that people on the liberal side wanting to move to Canada or Europe (like I do sometimes) because they are not satisfied with US politics and policies.

But people that are ultra-conservative and want to leave the US, I don't understand exactly where they want to go. Most countries that they would be comfortable in have massive social programs (hell, by conservative standards, they would be considered 'socialist') and do not tolerate religion is schools OR politics, don't allow guns, are tolerant of varying degrees to gay rights/marriage and do not have capital punishment, etc etc etc. All the things that they are trying to get AWAY from.

So just where exactly are they planning to go?


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I think they could go to Pakistan. In a recent poll I saw they were generally pro-Romney there.

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 Post subject: Re: US elections - 2012
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But people that are ultra-conservative and want to leave the US, I don't understand exactly where they want to go.

This. Isn't that why their forebears went to America in the first place, because their religious extremism meant they couldn't live within the norms of the existing nations? Where next? Antarctica?

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 Post subject: Re: US elections - 2012
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I think they could go to Pakistan. In a recent poll I saw they were generally pro-Romney there.


That's because our Nobel Peace Prize winning president is bombing the shiitake out of them. Liberals never seem to call him on it.


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 Post subject: Re: US elections - 2012
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LazySmurf wrote:
I think they could go to Pakistan. In a recent poll I saw they were generally pro-Romney there.


That's because our Nobel Peace Prize winning president is bombing the shiitake out of them. Liberals never seem to call him on it.

Yeah, the anti-Obama sentement in Pakastan comes largely from this administration's use of drone attacks, which have killed a lot of civilians. It's not that I think Romney wouldn't sanction the use of drones, but I think people in Pakastan have legitimate beef.


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 Post subject: Re: US elections - 2012
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I think laughing at bright orange bad spray tans is fair game. That's not body snarking--that is questioning his dubious judgement. Just like when Kerry tried to cover one up with a wind surfing photo op. But, I'm a bisque.


I am also a bisque. And I had forgotten all about the windsurfing incident. Pure gold, that one. I was just thinking that I would hear people disagree with B. and instead of reference policy, reference orange, which I thought was pointless.


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 Post subject: Re: US elections - 2012
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The craziest part about Obama's drone policy is that he considers ANY adult male killed in a drone strike to be a combatant unless evidence explicitly proving them innocent comes to light after their death. It's outrageously Orwellian.


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 Post subject: Re: US elections - 2012
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 Post subject: Re: US elections - 2012
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I think the conservatives might like Uganda.

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 Post subject: Re: US elections - 2012
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I am really happy that Jay Inslee won governer of Washington state. He is adorbs. Yes, that is my political opinion. Jay Inslee is a cutie-pie.

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 Post subject: Re: US elections - 2012
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http://www.ericgarland.co/2012/11/09/letter-to-a-future-republican-strategist-regarding-white-people/

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 Post subject: Re: US elections - 2012
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I agree with most of that as well.


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 Post subject: Re: US elections - 2012
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I feel like we need a whole thread dedicated to right-wing over-reactions to Obama's re-election.

Here a man writes "fork Obama," then commits suicide.

http://gawker.com/5960453/florida-man-a ... s-own-life

Doesn't this guy get that Obama is to the right of RICHARD NIXON on many issues?

http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepoliti ... ack-obama-–-more-conservative-than-richard-nixon/


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I feel like we need a whole thread dedicated to right-wing over-reactions to Obama's re-election.

Here a man writes "fork Obama," then commits suicide.

http://gawker.com/5960453/florida-man-a ... s-own-life

Doesn't this guy get that Obama is to the right of RICHARD NIXON on many issues?

http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepoliti ... ack-obama-–-more-conservative-than-richard-nixon/


And a gay man in Key West, on top of that. He sounds like he was depressed anyway though so it probably wasn't really all about the election.

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 Post subject: Re: US elections - 2012
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I just went to my County's website for work-related stuff and this was the headline next to a pic of wedding rings:

"Marriage equality
The King County Recorder's Office will open at 12:01 a.m. on Thursday, Dec. 6 to begin issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples. The office will also be open for extended hours on Dec. 7 and 8."

Whee! Election results will be certified on 12/5 per state law, so the 6th is the first day that marriage licenses can be issued. At 12:01am. :D

Also, the King County Council estimates that marriage licenses for same sex couples will bring in $50,000 in new revenue in the next year and they "wanted there to be a nexus between that money and where it went" (quote: Joe McDermott, chair of the council's budget committee) so they drafted an amendment to the budget that allocates $50,000 to programs that help at-risk queer youth and approved in unanimously.

Happy-making election stuff.

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awwww. that is so sweet that they're going to have a midnight opening. *misty eyed*

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