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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:58 pm 
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Anyone who thinks vegans don't drink should be pointed my way. I'll soon sort them out.

If you're not too pie-eyed to see straight...

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:06 pm 
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Yeah, I worry that my non-vegan friends think that veganism is supposed to be some form of asceticism, since I also don't drink, I don't watch TV, I don't have a smartphone, etc. But all those things are for entirely different reasons! I don't drink because my body can't handle alcohol, I don't watch TV because I like my brain too much, and I don't have a smartphone because it's too expensive and I don't want one anyway. I'm vegan because I respect animals!

I really don't believe that watching TV will ruin your brain. There is some beautiful and intellectual stuff on TV. And a bunch of crepe too, but it won't ruin your brain unless you make it your one and only reason for living. There are amazing artists, actors, and writers whose work translates best to the small screen. There are subtle but powerful political messages emerging all over the tube.

+1. I don't watch much TV because I can't be bothered to be in the living room at the same time every week, but it has nothing to do with brain-rotting.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:48 pm 
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Amongst my entire social circle of family/relatives/colleagues/acquaintances I'm not only the sole vegan, but also generally the only vegan they've ever come across. Therefore most assume that vegan = no booze.


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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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I believe that watching a lot of TV is not good for you, but I still watch a lot of TV. Sometimes I wish I watched less, but then Once Upon a Time is on... or Bones... or The Office... or Glee... or Grey's Anatomy... or 30 Rock... or Private Practice... Some of these shows I don't even like that much anymore, but I still watch them. It is certainly not my one and only reason for living, but I don't think it is that good for me either.


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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:06 pm 
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The idea that watching television somehow makes you brainless is an enormous peeve of mine. I hope you don't ruin your brain with any of those pesky books either.

fork yes. Times a flobbity-jillion.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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People who hear the word "vegan" or words "vegan food" come up in a sentence- mind you, they're not even in the damn conversation- and go "Ew." You are so lucky I don't get up and whoop your asparagus into next month. I don't say "Ew" when you talk about your nasty asparagus wings you like so forking much.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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My vegetarian mother telling me that she expects me to stop being a vegan for Thanksgiving.


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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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I wasn't judging anyone else who watches TV. I was specifically talking about my own experience of how TV makes my brain feel, as someone who did not grow up watching TV and doesn't enjoy sitting around watching it. I don't know what TV does to anyone's brain but mine. Everyone's brains are different! If you like watching TV, I totally support you watching it.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:33 am 
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Pet peeve: the expression "failed vegan". Veganism isn't something you can pass or fail, it's something you do because you have a set of beliefs. People have different reasons to do things and different beliefs and you shouldn't go about thinking you're better than someone. (Though it's just an expression and I'm sure you don't think like that). It's like calling someone a failed Christian or a failed organic-food-buyer. Don't be mean.

I was just going with the flow of the conversation here. I would never call anyone that to their face. I certainly don't think I'm better than anyone.
I know, I know, and I meant it in a light-hearted way. I find language really fascinating, so I got wound up thinking about the meaning of the term "failed vegan" and I think a spring sprung loose. It's like how I don't like that Gay Pride (and other Blah Prides) are called "pride" because pride comes from achievement and how can you be proud of something you had no choice in. I know that it has another meaning that's specific to this use, but it's not a word I like. It's also a name for one of the seven deadly sins, which are inherently associated with naughty behaviour. I admit that "Gay Showing Happiness With A Matter-of-Factness!" is less good a name.

But anyway, when vegetarian restaurants that mark what is and is not vegan have butter on the table and not olive oil or something to stop it being dry makes me grr.


Sorry for the derail but I have to answer this point about Gay Pride. It didn't just spring fully formed from someone's head, as in "Let's call it Pride". It was a reaction to the general consensus at the time that we should be ashamed of ourselves and was a way of answering that by saying "Actually, we are proud of who we are, what we have achieved, our relationships and our lives, we will not allow you to make us feel shame". It wasn't/isn't about solely being proud of your sexuality.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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I don't watch TV, because it did bad things to me. I was a TV addict for decades. I am glad I cut it out of my life.

I don't drink, because... I don't?

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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Has anyone seen the 'piggy stardust' commercial on Cooking Channel? Ugh...I thought it was going to be a pro veg piece...of course not!

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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matwinser wrote:
Sorry for the derail but I have to answer this point about Gay Pride. It didn't just spring fully formed from someone's head, as in "Let's call it Pride". It was a reaction to the general consensus at the time that we should be ashamed of ourselves and was a way of answering that by saying "Actually, we are proud of who we are, what we have achieved, our relationships and our lives, we will not allow you to make us feel shame". It wasn't/isn't about solely being proud of your sexuality.

Mat.

P.S. You may now resume your normal programming.
I know, and that was a very good thing, but that's a long way from the selling sparkly dildos in the park that happens nowadays. Alors...

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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But then we are self-censoring, aren't we? Saying "You can celebrate this but not this"

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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What's wrong with sparkly dildos?

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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What's wrong with sparkly dildos?


Your face is wrong with... sparkly... dildos?

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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I really think someone needs to write a song called Sparkly Dildos in the Park.


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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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As a music therapist, I play drums a lot. Specifically, hand drums called djembes that look likes this:
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Most of them are made of animal skin. I've always known this. Recently, I found out exactly which animals the skins came from on the different drums, and now I can't play them without feeling gross.

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
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starrynight- there are synthetic heads! (mylar and kevlar come to mind; kevlar doesn't sound super great, but mylar heads are pretty good)

The drums themselves (as I'm sure you know) can be made out of wood, plastic, synthetics, etc., and the ropes can be cotton, nylon etc. I know initially most nice djembes come with skin drumheads, but you can change them out and donate the old heads to someone who doesn't mind using them. If you want me to research further, I'm happy to- I work in a music shop that sells a myriad of percussion instruments, and I'm trying to create as much awareness as possible about how unfriendly lots of instruments are to animals, and support companies that are animal-friendly. Meinl makes good-sounding djembes that are vegan aside from the heads, but, again, Remo does make mylar.

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I really think someone needs to write a song called Sparkly Dildos in the Park.


I get up in the evening, and I ain't got nothing to say
I come home in the moring, I go to bed feeling the same way
I ain't nothing but tired, man I'm just tired and bored with myself
Hey there baby, I could use just a little help
You can't start a fire, you can't start a fire without a spark
...somethingsomethingsomething sparkly dildos in the park (sorry)

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 Post subject: Re: Vegan pet peeves
PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:22 pm 
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Choirqueer, you have to post your song again! It looks like it fell victim to the spampocalypse!


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That. Is. Amazing. Love the unicorn line best!

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That. Is. Amazing. Love the unicorn line best!


I feel compelled to do that every time I'm in an adult toy store.

Maybe this is why I never get laid?

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Guacamole with bacon bits.
Seriously. Why do people do these things?! I recently met a friend at a local Mexican place, and the waiter was all pumped to tell us about the "guac of the day" (which featured bacon and gorgonzola cheese) until he saw our horrified expressions. Even as an omnivore I would have found that disgusting; why on earth would anyone think it was a good idea to ruin perfectly delicious guacamole that way? What did that guacamole ever do to them?

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