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triskellgirl
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Post subject: Aaand...it's not vegan... Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:42 pm |
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Joined: Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:38 am Posts: 18 Location: Upstate NY
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So, today, I put together a vegan lasagna with almond ricotta, topped it with bread crumbs and threw it in the oven. Then I thought, oh, I should read contents on those bread crumbs. I mean, I have no idea why they'd have anything other than bread and herbs, but I should get used to reading labels...
Milk. Honey.
Granted, this is a completely rookie mistake, and a quick read of the label would have made it clear. But I know now that beer is often not vegan, and strawberry smoothies at Starbucks were not until recently. So...
How do I find out if my beer is vegan (so I can make an informed choice), and what are the other 'surprise' foods you discovered in your early vegan days that aren't vegan?
(Not to mislead anyone - I'm not vegan. I'm a toe dipper. But it's incredibly frustrating to not be able to determine, with relative ease, if a food item is vegan or not.)
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linanil
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Post subject: Re: Aaand...it's not vegan... Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:48 pm |
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:54 pm Posts: 6127 Location: Maryland/DC area
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I wouldn't worry about it, it takes a bit.
Things I've fallen for: - Trader Joe's Italian sausages (contain egg whites) - Many other random things, I can't think of anything specific
One easy way is to see if an item contains cholesterol. Nothing vegan should have cholesterol in it. I usually scan the ingredients and if my husband is with me, I'll have him scan them too.
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monkeytoes
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Post subject: Re: Aaand...it's not vegan... Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:54 pm |
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Barnivore is your go-to for vegan-ness of beer (and other alcoholic beverages.) I read ingredients even when it seems silly to do so. I usually start with the allergy warning at the end of the ingredient list because fish, shellfish, eggs and milk ingredients will all be flagged there and sometimes that saves me having to bother reading the rest. If the allergy warning is clear, I move on to the ingredient list. I'm still not 100% on trace ingredients, but I have an app on my phone for things like sodium lactylate and other crepe that I have no idea what it is.
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triskellgirl
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Post subject: Re: Aaand...it's not vegan... Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:21 pm |
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Joined: Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:38 am Posts: 18 Location: Upstate NY
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Oh, glory be! My favorite beer is vegan friendly. *wipes forehead*
I love the cholesterol trick, and the trace ingredients thing is going to take a WHILE, but I'm trying to have some awareness. The allergy warning is nice and quick, great idea!
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dakini
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Post subject: Re: Aaand...it's not vegan... Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:28 pm |
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I eat mostly fresh vegetables, but sometimes I pick up frozen for those quick after-work dinners, and you have to check the labels on those as they are sometimes seasoned with butter or cheese. The bread crumbs thing is definitely annoying, I've been there. I bought granola once that had milk in it, didn't think to read the label. Some soy cheeses have milk ingredients in them.
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starrynight87
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Post subject: Re: Aaand...it's not vegan... Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:37 pm |
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monkeytoes wrote: Barnivore is your go-to for vegan-ness of beer (and other alcoholic beverages.) I read ingredients even when it seems silly to do so. I usually start with the allergy warning at the end of the ingredient list because fish, shellfish, eggs and milk ingredients will all be flagged there and sometimes that saves me having to bother reading the rest. If the allergy warning is clear, I move on to the ingredient list. I'm still not 100% on trace ingredients, but I have an app on my phone for things like sodium lactylate and other crepe that I have no idea what it is. I do the allergy thing too.
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Post subject: Re: Aaand...it's not vegan... Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:40 pm |
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Early on I remember being caught out by a carob mouse! I bought it thinking "oh, carob's what healthy vegan types eat, it's not as good as chocolate but maybe I better start getting used to it". Was halfway through munching before I thought to check the ingredients and discovered milk powder in there. I guess I was like those people who assume something gluten-free is vegan because it's 'special diet' but I didn't make that mistake again. Vegan chocolate forevermore!
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Post subject: Re: Aaand...it's not vegan... Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:02 pm |
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Just a heads up, there are some vegan ingredients with like really miniscule amounts of cholesterol. It's a good red flag in general though.
Breadcrumbs are one of the hardest things to find vegan, it seems. Whole Foods brand is vegan, but I haven't been able to find any in a regular grocery store.
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lavawitch
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Post subject: Re: Aaand...it's not vegan... Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:14 pm |
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:21 pm Posts: 8888 Location: VA
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Wegmans might be vegan. They say they may contain a lot of crepe. The label is confusing.
Panko is vegan unless there is some weird brand floating aeound that isn't.
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ashley
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Post subject: Re: Aaand...it's not vegan... Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:06 pm |
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I've been using a tub of Trader Joe's soy protein powder for a couple months and just noticed today that it has D3 in it. That's stupid/annoying.
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mattomic
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Post subject: Re: Aaand...it's not vegan... Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:17 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:37 pm Posts: 686 Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
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A lot of breadcrumbs here have fish oil, milk, and all sorts of things.. It's just bizarre! And so unexpected.
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Post subject: Re: Aaand...it's not vegan... Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:42 pm |
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Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:28 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Connecticut
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Yeah breadcrumbs are weird, they always have like a million ingredients. I stick with panko because it's almost always vegan.
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Post subject: Re: Aaand...it's not vegan... Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:07 pm |
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I usually make my own bread crumbs, often out of home made bread. I try to keep some in the freezer all the time.
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mattomic
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Post subject: Re: Aaand...it's not vegan... Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:50 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:37 pm Posts: 686 Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
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Post subject: Re: Aaand...it's not vegan... Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:12 pm |
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Last year Trader Joes Brandy Beans were vegan. This year, they are not, which my partner and I found out after reading the TJ's thread here on the PPK...and after we ate all but ONE of the damned beans.
Reading labels is important.
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annak
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Post subject: Re: Aaand...it's not vegan... Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:43 pm |
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I think most Dutch/Belgian and Czech beers are vegan, and all the Mexican ones I've looked into have been.. I'd worry mostly about British and Irish stouts.
Anyway, live and learn. Panko is usually OK. I remember seeing in this forum that someone accidentally bought bread crumbs with some kind of fish in it, so it could be worse! I mean fishy bread crumbs just sounds nasty.
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lavawitch
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Post subject: Re: Aaand...it's not vegan... Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:48 pm |
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German beers are vegan. As far I know, this is regulated.
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mattomic
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Post subject: Re: Aaand...it's not vegan... Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:01 am |
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Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:37 pm Posts: 686 Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
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Australian beers generally aren't vegan, either.
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Post subject: Re: Aaand...it's not vegan... Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:50 am |
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lavawitch wrote: German beers are vegan. As far I know, this is regulated. Knuckle-up Reinheitsgebot!
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Chicki
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Post subject: Re: Aaand...it's not vegan... Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:22 pm |
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The whole D fortified thing really confused me. Still does. I didn't even realize than many items that are fortified with D vitamins (i.e. D3) come from animal products. Cereal is the biggest culprit of this. Some juices too. Even some soymilk (not Silk, which is what I buy, but some other brands). The confusing part is, there are no animal products listed on the ingredients list. Just vitamin D. It's irritating. I have to look up stuff online to figure it out. But I don't eat much cereal anyway, so that's ok. Special K with strawberries is one of the few I like and it's vegan. We have a couple of cereal threads that might be helpful viewtopic.php?f=18&t=9582&hilit=cerealviewtopic.php?f=18&t=1531&hilit=cerealDon't get me started on Orange Juice that has fish oil in it. I guess it might go well with the breadcrumbs that have fish in them.
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Post subject: Re: Aaand...it's not vegan... Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:04 pm |
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Wine is a demon. Lot's of wines contain milk and/or eggs. I had to buy a bottle of wine the other day as a present for someone but hadn't internet access to go look for one that was vegan so I made do with a wine from the shelf. I try to avoid not vegan products even when I'm buying for others but laziness got the better of me Friday.
Over here it is impossible to get vegan olives. OLIVES!!! For crying out loud, what is with this world and adding lactose into everything?
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lavawitch
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Post subject: Re: Aaand...it's not vegan... Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:07 pm |
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Wha...? Eggs in wine?
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Post subject: Re: Aaand...it's not vegan... Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:00 pm |
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Here olives contain lactic acid. Luckily, industrial lactic acid is made of glucose, not lactose.
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Post subject: Re: Aaand...it's not vegan... Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:01 pm |
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lavawitch wrote: Wha...? Eggs in wine? Yes, they use egg whites somehow in the filtering process.
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Post subject: Re: Aaand...it's not vegan... Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:17 pm |
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Never found vegan bread crumbs. I now just but regular bread in the toaster oven real low for like 30 minutes and then zip it in the blender. Use more bread than you think you'd need because it always makes less than you'd think!
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