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 Post subject: Re: Chocolate chip cookies: What am I doing wrong?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:46 pm 
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rhelune wrote:
And this is why measuring volume sucks:
http://forums.egullet.org/topic/85172-t ... manifesto/

One cup unsifted flour is 140 g.

I agree that it would be a lot easier to get consistent results if we switched to measuring by weight, but unfortunately it's just the way it's done in this part of the world. The problem with saying that 1 cup of flour = 140g is that some cookbook authors use the spoon-into-cup-and-level method and some use the scoop-and-level method, so it's going to be inconsistent. Many authors will say what method they use somewhere in the front of their books, especially for baking books (pretty sure Isa and Terry do specify). Most importantly though, trust your instincts - does the dough look and feel right to you? If it's more like a batter than a dough, don't be afraid to add some more flour. Cookies are especially forgiving in this way.

And I also agree with what everyone else said about parchment paper - your cookies will never stick, and it makes clean-up so much easier.

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 Post subject: Re: Chocolate chip cookies: What am I doing wrong?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:51 pm 
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Julie's recipes are not scoop recipes. She is a die-hard spoon into the measuring cup and then level off-er. I have to kick her out of the kitchen when I scoop, cuz it drives her mad.

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 Post subject: Re: Chocolate chip cookies: What am I doing wrong?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:53 pm 
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kittee wrote:
Julie's recipes are not scoop recipes. She is a die-hard spoon into the measuring cup and then level off-er. I have to kick her out of the kitchen when I scoop, cuz it drives her mad.

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Yep, that's what she told me when I was trying to figure out what I did wrong the first time! I still have no idea what happened to those.


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 Post subject: Re: Chocolate chip cookies: What am I doing wrong?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:11 pm 
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I don't know if it's helpful to say that when I get a recipe working really well, I weigh as I include the ingredients, and then bake by weight in future. So much easier, so much more reliable.


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 Post subject: Re: Chocolate chip cookies: What am I doing wrong?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:37 pm 
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rhelune wrote:
And this is why measuring volume sucks:
http://forums.egullet.org/topic/85172-t ... manifesto/

One cup unsifted flour is 140 g.


I agree! I wish more cookbooks used weights--besides, it's so much faster to just add ingredients to your bowl on the scale...


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 Post subject: Re: Chocolate chip cookies: What am I doing wrong?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:50 pm 
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Exactly. And to be honest, I don't even trust the "established" weight charts etc -I weigh a cup of flour myself and work from there. So many variations, otherwise!!


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 Post subject: Re: Chocolate chip cookies: What am I doing wrong?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:54 pm 
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Wow. I never knew about sporking into the measuring cup. I alway scoop and level!


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 Post subject: Re: Chocolate chip cookies: What am I doing wrong?
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I a scoop and shaker! I might be the very worst of all measurers!

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 Post subject: Re: Chocolate chip cookies: What am I doing wrong?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:17 pm 
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I scoop and shake too. And I've successfully made the PPK ones many times - with both amounts of oil.


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 Post subject: Re: Chocolate chip cookies: What am I doing wrong?
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 Post subject: Re: Chocolate chip cookies: What am I doing wrong?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:21 am 
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Butternut wrote:
karichelle wrote:
So I guess next time I'll just jam the measuring cup in the flour and use it as the scoop? LOL

Exactly


it seems there are a lot of different opinions about scoopng vs. sporking. i'm a spooner and i aven't had a problem with any batches of cookies..... as others have mentioned, i do have VJIYCJ out from the library and it does say in the intro that they are scoopers (!!!) so it will be sooo weird to do that, but i will, so that my flour measurements are more like theirs. not sure how much a diff in weight spooooning vs. scooping is, but i suppose it does make a difference....

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 Post subject: Re: Chocolate chip cookies: What am I doing wrong?
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I've made the choc chip cookie recipe from VCIYCJ at least 10 times using the sporking method (and reducing the oil to 1/2c). Success each time. And I love using parchment paper - what a difference.


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 Post subject: Re: Chocolate chip cookies: What am I doing wrong?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:47 pm 
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I am late to this, but want to suggest that the problem might be greasing the pan. I'm pretty sure cookies like these should be made on an ungreased surface, whether the pan itself or parchment.


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 Post subject: Re: Chocolate chip cookies: What am I doing wrong?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:19 pm 
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Mingum wrote:
I am late to this, but want to suggest that the problem might be greasing the pan. I'm pretty sure cookies like these should be made on an ungreased surface, whether the pan itself or parchment.



The recipe actually stated to grease the cookie sheet. The issue was the way I measured the flour. The second batch turned out fine.


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 Post subject: Re: Chocolate chip cookies: What am I doing wrong?
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great to hear! that cookie is on my to-do list today ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Chocolate chip cookies: What am I doing wrong?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:35 pm 
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poopiebitch wrote:
Yeah, scoop it - but don't pack it. Just scoop and level. Also, my personal preference is to reduce the oil in the VCIYCJ recipe (the same one on the PPK blog) to 1/2 cup. And, as I think IJDI said, letting the dough rest in the fridge for a few hours to overnight will allow the flour to "hydrate" (ie absorb some of the liquid).


thanks for this tip, i just left a comment in the VCIYCJ thread.......

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