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choirqueer wrote:
interrobang?! wrote:
hoveringdog™ wrote:
['seɪtæn]
Perhaps it gets taught as regular in American schools.
It is International Phonetic Alphabet, not commonly taught in US schools, but it is useful because it's standardized.
From what I can tell, it's not commonly taught until you're doing college-level linguistic coursework; non-academics usually rely on dictionaries, which often use their own systems of diacritic marks on "normal" English letters (not the IPA, in many cases). I learned IPA in college, but then for real life language work abandoned it, as each country/educational system i've worked with used a different non-IPA system. Maybe it's common in Europe.
Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:58 pm Posts: 119 Location: Europe
I appreciate it when someone posts IPA-versions in these threads. I'm a non-native speaker and it's a lot easier for me to read than the other versions. I learnt IPA at university, although there were a few teachers at my high school who taught it to their students. So please don't stop using IPA, hoveringdog!
I usually pronounce it in a sort of Japanese way ['seh-tahn], in a sing-song voice a la Winnie the Pooh:
It's probably a good thing that the opportunity to say it doesn't come up often. ;)
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torque wrote:
choirqueer wrote:
It is International Phonetic Alphabet, not commonly taught in US schools, but it is useful because it's standardized.
From what I can tell, it's not commonly taught until you're doing college-level linguistic coursework; non-academics usually rely on dictionaries, which often use their own systems of diacritic marks on "normal" English letters (not the IPA, in many cases). I learned IPA in college, but then for real life language work abandoned it, as each country/educational system i've worked with used a different non-IPA system. Maybe it's common in Europe.
I remember picking it up in grade school, but I'm not sure if that was because I had a teacher I really liked or because I just went and read all the reference books in the library.
I had no friends.
(Say-tan, by the way, with equal emphasis - maybe the first syllable held a little longer? But not more stressed? If that makes any sense? Question mark?)
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interrobang?! wrote:
hoveringdog™ wrote:
I've usually heard ['seɪtæn]. The other day I heard someone say ['sitən], but he was clearly confused.
I have to say, i never do get it when people post the pronounciation stuff in that way. Perhaps it gets taught as regular in American schools and, in which case, fair enough! Otherwise, I find this weird dictionary-speak stuff comes up every so often on ppk 'speech' threads and it annoys the ever-loving crepe out of me as i've no idea what's going on.
Anyhoo. Say-tun.
It was my passive aggressive way to poke fun at "how do you pronounce..." threads where everyone uses an individual system of denoting pronunciation with no objective way of telling what they hell they mean. Say-tan, say-tahn, say-tun, sigh-tan, those could all be different, those could all the same, and the world may never know.
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It's a good thing I'm alone right now, because I'm whispering the various pronunciations to myself and I probably sound insane. Anyway, I think I'm in the "say-tan" school.
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