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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:54 am 
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I mostly speak Spanish to Wilson, whose first language is Portuguese, so there are a lot of levels of what the fizzle there..

hehe. this was when i first met Mr Torque and I didn't speak Japanese yet- i spoke a weird mix of Puerto Rican and Spain Spanish, and my best friend spoke Italian from Napoli, and he and his friends spoke what we here call "portuñol"- basically portuguese with a spanish accent. When you consider that the average spanish speaker can't even really communicate with portuguese speakers in real life [and vice versa, based on anecdotal observations here, not to say it's impossible; uruguayans seem to have a clear advantage though], you can imagine how many cock-ups we had.

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I mostly speak Spanish to Wilson, whose first language is Portuguese, so there are a lot of levels of what the fizzle there..

hehe. this was when i first met Mr Torque and I didn't speak Japanese yet- i spoke a weird mix of Puerto Rican and Spain Spanish, and my best friend spoke Italian from Napoli, and he and his friends spoke what we here call "portuñol"- basically portuguese with a spanish accent. When you consider that the average spanish speaker can't even really communicate with portuguese speakers in real life [and vice versa, based on anecdotal observations here, not to say it's impossible; uruguayans seem to have a clear advantage though], you can imagine how many cock-ups we had.


Ha! Wilson and I speak portuñol to each other! I got so frustrated at this New Year's Eve part trying to order wine and the bartender couldn't understand me, so I huffed at Wilson--What's going on?! And he's responded, "Um, baby, you're speaking Spanish. He can't understand you." I really thought I was speaking Portuguese though!

I thought of you last night when Wilson was telling me the letter he got from the Federal Police "...mira como shiitake, man."

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i tell you, english just has better-tasting profanity.

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Sprachgefühl

There's a word for Schadenfreude in Croatian: zluradost. Zlo=evil, harm. Radost= joy.

There's no word for sibling. But, there are several words for aunts and uncles depending on the relation:
stric - father's brother
strina - father's brother's wife
ujak - mother's brother
ujna - mother's brother's wife
tetka - mother's or father's sister
tetak - mother's or father's sister's husband

There's only one word for niece and only one word for nephew, though.

For prozvonit my former room-mate would say "give me a beep".


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Guys, I just searched the forum for foie gras or faux gras and I also found "mardi gras" -so I'm just curious: have you ever heard anyone saying "fat tuesday"? How would you say it in <your language>?

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In Italian it would be "martedi grasso" but it's really just "Carnevale"


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Emilie wrote:
Guys, I just searched the forum for foie gras or faux gras and I also found "mardi gras" -so I'm just curious: have you ever heard anyone saying "fat tuesday"? How would you say it in <your language>?

Yes, people here sometimes call it fat tuesday, but usually mardi gras. I don't remember where, but I've seen a bar called Fat Tuesday's.

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we don't have a special word for the day before Ash Wednesday- Carnaval is (at least) two days here and we call it Carnaval Monday and Carnaval Tuesday.

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Emilie wrote:
Guys, I just searched the forum for foie gras or faux gras and I also found "mardi gras" -so I'm just curious: have you ever heard anyone saying "fat tuesday"? How would you say it in <your language>?


"Fat Tuesday" = "Masni utorak". No, I've never heard that. It's called "mesopust" - "devoid of meat". Or "karneval". Or "fašnik" from German "Fastnacht". Or "maškare" from "mask" ("maškara" is singular for a masked person, "maškare" is plural). Or "poklade" (I don't know the etymology of that).


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A word that recently sprung up in my house (hehe) and i had to explain is
bakamoyashi [japanese] - that one sprout in the garden that shoots up way before all the other sprouts, then gets fried to a fizzle and never yields anything. Every time I plant seeds there's one of these. In fact my whole last crop of cilantro was a bunch of bakamoyashi.

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Cute! I'll try to remember that one!

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I'm trying to remember the Yiddish word for a person who is always giving advice, but it's escaping me. Anyone?

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I'm trying to remember the Yiddish word for a person who is always giving advice, but it's escaping me. Anyone?


Nudnik? Kibbitzer?


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I think one of the things that I miss the most from the US is the almost constant presence of Yiddish in my life (i am a Christian who grew up amongst New York Jews, as did my mother). Every so often my daughter will give me a "huh?" and I realize that I've been inserting Yiddish words again and I'll have to explain. She'll ask why I use something from a culture that's not even my own and i just assume that all new yorkers speak a little yiddish, especially the spicier words. But it makes me sad to think she won't know verklempt or shmutz or meshuggenah or all the other words that i just soaked up growing up as the neighborhood shiksa.

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I think one of the things that I miss the most from the US is the almost constant presence of Yiddish in my life (i am a Christian who grew up amongst New York Jews, as did my mother). Every so often my daughter will give me a "huh?" and I realize that I've been inserting Yiddish words again and I'll have to explain. She'll ask why I use something from a culture that's not even my own and i just assume that all new yorkers speak a little yiddish, especially the spicier words. But it makes me sad to think she won't know verklempt or shmutz or meshuggenah or all the other words that i just soaked up growing up as the neighborhood shiksa.


It's so true! I grew up in Westchester and both my parents are New York Jews. Everyone I knew growing up spoke a little Yiddish, Jewish or not. I was amazed when I moved to the midwest and nobody understood those words.

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I use Yiddish words, but only because of my affinity for MAD magazine. TRS knows the word fershlugginer because of this.

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rhelune wrote:
Emilie wrote:
Guys, I just searched the forum for foie gras or faux gras and I also found "mardi gras" -so I'm just curious: have you ever heard anyone saying "fat tuesday"? How would you say it in <your language>?


"Fat Tuesday" = "Masni utorak". No, I've never heard that. It's called "mesopust" - "devoid of meat". Or "karneval". Or "fašnik" from German "Fastnacht". Or "maškare" from "mask" ("maškara" is singular for a masked person, "maškare" is plural). Or "poklade" (I don't know the etymology of that).

I'm from the US South, my grandmother is Cajun from Louisiana. We say Fat Tuesday.

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ndpittman wrote:
I'm trying to remember the Yiddish word for a person who is always giving advice, but it's escaping me. Anyone?


Nudnik? Kibbitzer?


Yenta?


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I think kibbitzer is what I was thinking of. Yiddish just has such good words!

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