| Register  | FAQ  | Search | Login 
It is currently Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:19 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 14 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Rejuvelac and Artisan Vegan Cheese
PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:12 pm 
***LIES!!!***
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:10 pm
Posts: 3448
So I hear I have to make Rejuvelac to make Artisan Vegan Cheese. I know that sprouts, maybe particularly homemade sprouts, are potential sources of food poisoning and that they sometimes recommend that pregnant women and children don't eat them for that reason. I would assume the same would be true for Rejuvelac, which is made from homemade sprouts, yes? So would things like vegan cheese made with Rejuvelac be safe for young children, pregnant women, etc?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Rejuvelac and Artisan Vegan Cheese
PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:44 am 
Wears Durian Helmet
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:58 pm
Posts: 827
Location: Hamburg, Germany
I just bought the book and had the same question in my mind... how soon could the rejuvelac turn bad? there is a powder you can buy here in Germany for it, would that work too?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Rejuvelac and Artisan Vegan Cheese
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:54 am 
Tofu Pup
Offline

Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:41 pm
Posts: 6
Location: Rock Valley, Iowa
Well, I bought a sprouting seed mix from Amazon and have had no problems with food poisoning, or with any alfalfa sprouts from a grocery store. Of course, if your sprouts turn moldy that would do it...or trying to sprout something that's toxic, like black beans. I found that out a few years ago. Hit the stomach, instant spew !


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Rejuvelac and Artisan Vegan Cheese
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:55 am 
Tofu Pup
Offline

Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:41 pm
Posts: 6
Location: Rock Valley, Iowa
Well, I bought a sprouting seed mix from Amazon and have had no problems with food poisoning, or with any alfalfa sprouts from a grocery store. Of course, if your sprouts turn moldy that would do it...or trying to sprout something that's toxic, like black beans. I found that out a few years ago. Hit the stomach, instant spew !

I'm attempting my first batch of rejuvelac from quinoa sprouts. If that works, going to use it for macadamia cheese.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Rejuvelac and Artisan Vegan Cheese
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:49 am 
Loves Carrots (in the biblical sense)
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:37 am
Posts: 77
Location: Puerto Rico
jerusha wrote:
I just bought the book and had the same question in my mind... how soon could the rejuvelac turn bad? there is a powder you can buy here in Germany for it, would that work too?


I had the same question about it, about the powder I guess you could use it in the book the author specify that it could be homemade or store bought. I'll have to try store bought too, maybe on the internet since I've never seen it at the local store.

_________________
Recetas en mi blog: http://missloublog.com
NutriciĆ³n, recetas y estilo de vida en mi page: www.facebook.com/missloublog


Top
 Profile WWW  
 
 Post subject: Re: Rejuvelac and Artisan Vegan Cheese
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:00 am 
Memorized Veganomicon
Offline

Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2012 3:33 pm
Posts: 96
Location: In the cold north
I would say just rinse often and it should be okay.

_________________
Vegan dancer!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Rejuvelac and Artisan Vegan Cheese
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:14 pm 
Invented Vegan Meringue
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:08 pm
Posts: 4018
Location: Malvern, PA
Hi guys! We have a thread about this already. Miyoko herself has popped in to give some great advice!
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=20410


Top
 Profile WWW  
 
 Post subject: Re: Rejuvelac and Artisan Vegan Cheese
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:56 pm 
Trapped On A Desert Island With A Cow
Offline

Joined: Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:00 am
Posts: 402
I would think any of the cooked cheeses should be fine because they are heated hot enough to kill bacteria. If you're really worried, maybe stick to those.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Rejuvelac and Artisan Vegan Cheese
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:04 pm 
***LIES!!!***
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:10 pm
Posts: 3448
I posted this question in the cookbook thread too and didn't get a response since I last checked. Rinsing isn't a solution because the pathogens are usually inside the sprouts, and home sprouting (or really sprouts at all) in general is not advised for anyone with an imperfect immune system because the risk of food poisoning. What would be fine for a normal adult could kill a small child and basically I'm not going to put energy into cooking anything I can't share! DEG, that's a good point about cooked cheeses, thank you! I'll try one of those.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Rejuvelac and Artisan Vegan Cheese
PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:56 pm 
Huffs Nutritional Yeast
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:23 am
Posts: 114
Location: Oolongong
Making the cooked cheeses is a great idea. You could always use uncooked cheeses in cooked foods, too.

I have two and a half ideas that would avoid the need for sprouting. The first is water kefir/tibicos - unflavored, made with only sugar, water and the 'grains', then strained. I have used this in a few of the recipes in the book and it has worked perfectly. Sometimes I've diluted it a bit. I use it because I always have it anyway, not because of any particular safety concerns, but I do think it is a very safe option. And you can make delicious fruit Soda with it, too! If you know anyone with grains they'd surely give you some, as they multiply readily. If you happened to be in Australia, I'd send you some, if I could figure out how to package them. Anyway, they seem to be quite easily available online.

The second is using malted grains. I have not tried this. Miyoko wrote this in the AVC thread
miyokoschinner wrote:
For those of you having trouble with rejuvelac, a cheese making supply company that carries my book has come up with a remarkable and easy way to make it using malted grains. Who would have thought! Here's a link to their page (scroll down) and they'll lead you through making an easy rejuvelac that bypasses the sprouting process. http://www.cheesemaking.com/VeganChz.html

You can get malted grains from home brewing suppliers.

My half an idea is cabbage rejuvelac. I know nothing about this, except for that it exists and if you google it instructions will appear.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Rejuvelac and Artisan Vegan Cheese
PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:47 pm 
Attended Chelsea Clinton's Wedding
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:09 pm
Posts: 196
I am not sure about this but I just bought mine in a bottle already made from amazon.com because I am not feeling confident about doing it myself.

http://www.amazon.com/Rejuvenation-Comp ... =rejuvelac

This seemed safer but it's pricey because of the shipping but I bought two bottles I expect it to last awhile since you don't need much. FYI The company that ships it is slow. I compared buying directly from the company amazon is cheaper.

Perhaps you could check with the manufacturer of this and see how safe it is and if it's ok order this product online knowing it's consistent which it may not be at home.

rejuvenationcompany.com

Collecting all the stuff to make vegan cheese has not been easy nor cheap but I am looking forward to trying it out.

_________________
"Evolution is a constant process"
If God hands you a literal lemon- keep your head up-
Build a Lemonade Stand


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Rejuvelac and Artisan Vegan Cheese
PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:56 pm 
***LIES!!!***
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:10 pm
Posts: 3448
Thank you loomi and sophiagrt!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Rejuvelac and Artisan Vegan Cheese
PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:50 pm 
Tofu Pup
Offline

Joined: Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:39 pm
Posts: 1
I've made rejuvelac from wheatgrass, successfully 3 times so far. Before that I tried quinoa from my local health food store, and it didn't even sprout after 7 days. They told me it might be because it was imported, and therefore heat treated.

I haven't had any problems with the rejuvelac at all except for that.

I don't keep it past 2 weeks, though, even though it will probably keep longer. I use 1/2 recipe from Miyoko's book because I dont't make that much cheese at once.

I wouldn't worry if you wash your seeds a couple times a day, and keep them in a clean environment.

Everything I've made from these recipes has been awesome, and the longer I culture them, the better they are. My latest air-dried camembert is very very nice, and non-vegans loved it.

Hard to get soy yogurt here (I'm in the hinterlands) but I'm hoping to make some grateable parmesan to replace the *edited word here* we get at the supermarket!

Not to be too cheezy...;)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Rejuvelac and Artisan Vegan Cheese
PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:20 pm 
Attended Chelsea Clinton's Wedding
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:25 pm
Posts: 225
Location: Central Coast of California
smasheasy wrote:
I've made rejuvelac from wheatgrass, successfully 3 times so far. Before that I tried quinoa from my local health food store, and it didn't even sprout after 7 days. They told me it might be because it was imported, and therefore heat treated.

My latest air-dried camembert is very very nice, and non-vegans loved it.



Love my quinoa rejuvelac! Always take a nice drink of it when I use it in a recipe (like later, as I attempt the cashew cream cheese again).

And... the air-dried camembert is incredible, both in its pre-cooked form (as a crema sauce with Latin foods AND on top of AFR 40-Clove Chickpeas and Brocc) and finished (with Triscuits, OMG - omni extended family LOVED it).


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic  [ 14 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
Template made by DEVPPL/ThatBigForum and fancied up by What Cheer