Post Punk Kitchen Forum

That's awesome, vijita!

I'm just glad it's Friday, too!

Hey, I was wondering this myself the other day. Because I was thinking of how Food Network (I guess this dates back to Simon Cowell) just lets a man with cooking skills, a UK accent and a foul temper on television and bang, they get a show (I was thinking specifically of Robert Irvine and Gordon Ramsay--mostly GR because he's really being overused lately--Hotel Hell, Kitchen Nightmares, Masterchef and whatelse) and then I remembered that GR is Scottish and I'm not sure if RI is British or possibly Scottish as well. But anyway, I thought of them as "UK'ers" and this is awkward and so I wondered, too, if there was another word. Hopefully, someone in the know will enlighten us.

I have no internet at home and I'm being told it may not be back for about two weeks! It's only been two days and I'm already getting crabby. I work from home, so this is extra unacceptable.

From my experience, and a bit of checking on Wikipedia, British is the term used to cover all the UK, generally speaking. Northern Ireland is not part of Great Britain, or on the island of Britain, but I would include Northern Irish people when I say British, because it's part of the UK. There are those who would disagree with its usage, though, sometimes quite emphatically. It's a bit of a tricky subject. Similarly, the term Irish can generally be used for people from either of the two nations that exist on the island of Ireland, from my experience.

If you know which of the four nations of the UK someone comes from, though, use that.

Calling an English, Welsh or Scottish person British is unlikely to offend, though they may inform you that they are English, Welsh or Scottish.


(Efcliz quoted me while I was editing this adding a bit)

I don't think there is. People use British but often incorrectly because of the Irish thing. There's a lot of amusement at the moment about how Andy Murray is Scottish when he loses and British when he wins, and it's true.

Pulls out the popcorn and waits.

That sucks so much, especially since it interferes with your ability to work. I am outraged on your behalf!

I figured Ireland might be a different issue in terms of politics but I also figured that Scottish people weren't called British but again one reason I was wondering.

From my teensy/sheltered American brain, I've heard it as English is for people from England, British for people from the UK, but better to specify the country as there's a lot of history and politics.

re: linalil's UK question, I have the following youtube offerings

That is great Lutin, I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one confused. Also, I for some reason thought that Wales was in between England and Scotland.

Holland and Netherlands is also useful because I was confused by that as well.

I don't go anywhere near that topic. I've got yelled at for saying an irish movie was british once and since then I tried to figure it out, but I don't want to fork up and insult anyone so I just keep my mouth shut.

Well my mind is blown.

In high school, they tried to teach us that Ireland is part of the British Isles. Yeah, no.

I don't know if I've ever eaten coleslaw. When I was younger, I didn't like mayo or veg, so I don't think I would've ever intentionally eaten it. If I have eaten it, it was at least 20-25 years ago. But now I like (vegan) mayo and veg, so I'm gonna make some coleslaw this weekend. I hope I like it.

This is my favourite bit of the C.G.P. Grey video, it kills me every time. Hilarious.:

There are workers here putting a liner in the chimney. They turned the heat off and now they are knocking bricks out of the chimney or something... it's so loud and the whole house is shaking. I'm trying to figure out which part of the house will be the safest if the chimney collapses!

Rained in for the night. I was meant to be going to a work night out but all routes out of my village are now flooded. To really top it off the dog is pure hyper from hiding out in her kennel all day.

I like cashew based coleslaw, like Cool Slaw from Appetite for Reduction.

Calling people from the United States American is actually really controversial in a lot of North and South America. To them, "American" refers to anyone from either continent, and it's part of U.S. arrogance that we've coopted the term.

I know that there are people that don't like it and really think of it as referring to ourselves as the Americans as if we are the important ones in North America or the Americas in general. I just don't know what other short name for "United states of American" that you would have other than American. Which is actually what started me on this thinking.

So technically everyone who lives in North/South America is American but if you refer to someone in the US specifically, you refer to them as an American. And I've never heard of American being used in any other way other than saying something is North American or South American.

Yeah, English doesn't really have a good alternative word. I work a lot with Latin American studies, and they're very conscientious about using "U.S. residents/citizens," but that's too awkward to ever catch on in everyday spoken language. National identity is complicated.

I'm sick, my kids are sick, my partner is sick (and working anyway!) - bleh! Therefore, we're all sitting around at home (except my partner!) being incredibly lazy and tired and gross-feeling, when I actually need to be getting laundry and dishes and baby-proofing done. Why is being sick so annoying?!

Hope you guys all get well quickly, bodhi! We just went through this and I do not wish it on anyone.

Ha. Word.