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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:46 pm 
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I fished around in the nail polish threads for info, but saw some contradictory responses on the board (probably due to parent company issues).

Has anyone emailed the companies that make the gel manicure systems (calgel, shellac, etc) to see if they're vegan?

I have an email out to calgel's north american distributor but haven't heard anything back yet, though the internet suggests they don't test.


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 Post subject: Re: gel manicures
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:02 pm 
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Depends on how you feel about OPI (owned by a bad parent company) but they told me their gel manicure is vegan. I got it done last summer and if it was done better I might have enjoyed my chip free nails.

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 Post subject: Re: gel manicures
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:59 pm 
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if shellac isn't referring to a brand name, then it's not vegan.

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 Post subject: Re: gel manicures
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:12 pm 
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shellac's a brand name, and I remember reading somewhere that it actually had no shellac in it.


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 Post subject: Re: gel manicures
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:19 pm 
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I just had a quick snoop on google and it seems to be vegan if it is CND Shellac. Also came up on google was these posts.... http://forum.theppk.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=87&start=5375


Just done another look on google and it brought up this safety data sheet for one of the CND products....
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Toxicity Data:
This product has not been tested on animals to obtain toxicological data. There are toxicology data for the components of this product, which are found in the scientific literature. These data have not been presented in this document.

http://www.dosha.org/msds/Shellac%3F%20Color%20Coat.pdf

So I'm guessing that the ingredients have been tested on animals but they don't say whether that data was already available or that they sourced the ingredients from a company that does test or that they test the ingredients themselves.

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 Post subject: Re: gel manicures
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:32 pm 
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CND Shellac is vegan and not tested but its not a gel polish. If you have good nails it's great.

Nubar's Gelicure is vegan and cruelty free.

I believe artistic color gloss and young nails mani-q are both not tested but dunno about veganness. I think I read artistic is.

Gelish im not sure about anymore. their msds said they test but they've denied it and said they're releasing a new one but i don't really trust them now!

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 Post subject: Re: gel manicures
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:35 pm 
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CND Shellac is vegan and not tested but its not a gel polish. If you have good nails it's great.

Nubar's Gelicure is vegan and cruelty free.

I believe artistic color gloss and young nails mani-q are both not tested but dunno about veganness. I think I read artistic is.

Gelish im not sure about anymore. their msds said they test but they've denied it and said they're releasing a new one but i don't really trust them now!

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 Post subject: Re: gel manicures
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:16 pm 
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oh that i so confusing. why in the world would a company name themselves after such an icky concept?

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 Post subject: Re: gel manicures
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:46 pm 
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baps! thank you, that's super helpful! I'll post when/if I hear from calgel.


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 Post subject: Re: gel manicures
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:31 pm 
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supercarrot wrote:
oh that i so confusing. why in the world would a company name themselves after such an icky concept?



It has a high shine - what shellac does.

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 Post subject: Re: gel manicures
PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:43 am 
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aiee wrote:
baps! thank you, that's super helpful! I'll post when/if I hear from calgel.

yeah great, it'd be good to know. I was under the impression calgel was actually a hard gel rather than a gel polish (for going over tips or more similar to bio-sculpture) but i'm not 100%.

Speaking of Bio, it's a bit stronger than a gel polish and I don't think they test. Again, not sure on veganness. I'll look into it.

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 Post subject: Re: gel manicures
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:33 am 
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yeah, I clearly have no idea what the difference between these products is, I just have the vague sense they're all longer lasting nail polish. so thanks for explaining the difference!

still no word from calgel though.


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 Post subject: Re: gel manicures
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:00 pm 
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I don't know about Calgel's vegan-ness or testing but I looked it up and it is similar to bio sculpture, in that it's a soak off gel product but not a gel polish. So it's a bit stronger than gel polish and they can put it over tips if you want extensions. You can't do that with gel polish unless you have a gel builder underneath.

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 Post subject: Re: gel manicures
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:07 pm 
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Has anyone heard of Perfect Match? The salon I go to has loads of their gel colors.

http://www.lechatnails.com/home.htm

It looks like they don't test; I'm going to email them.

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 Post subject: Re: gel manicures
PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:06 am 
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I emailed CND back in October and received this:
Thank you for contacting CND. CND creates products from a combination of chemicals, vitamins, and botanicals. CND is animal friendly as well as environmentally friendly. We are diligent in our research and development of safe products and take great pride in providing the finest quality products to Nail Professionals and Consumers. There is no need for any type of animal by-products in our products as these are "chemical" treatments. Also, since these products are not made for use on animals they are not tested on animals.

Too chemical. Ha.

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 Post subject: Re: gel manicures
PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:32 pm 
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If you want builder gel or soak off and not gel polish I have inquired some companies.
Lechat is vegan as far as they claim- they say that they don't use animal derived ingridients in their products and that their products are never tested on animals in either part of the making process- the email was a bit vague but I think it's worth to look into it a bit further.
I have contacted artisan and they sent me a pdf file of the ingridients of both their soak off and builder gels, they don't test and in the overlook of the pdf file they seem to also not use any animals derived ingridients but I do have to search these ingridients and see.
I have inquired ibd and cnd and more they still haven't answered, hopefully they would- once they do I will update here :)
Even though it's not complete information I hope it helped :)))


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 Post subject: Re: gel manicures
PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:36 am 
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CND are owned by Revlon.

I've enailed IBD several times and never heard back so please do post if you get a reply :)

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 Post subject: Re: gel manicures
PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 4:27 am 
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baps wrote:
CND are owned by Revlon.

I've enailed IBD several times and never heard back so please do post if you get a reply :)


Will do and about CND I didn't know so thank you :)


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 Post subject: Re: gel manicures
PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:04 pm 
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i have done my best research on the artisan soak off and builder gel.
builder gel ingridients:
1.Polyurethane Acrylate
Oligomer
2.Tripropylene Glycol Diacrylate
Esters (TPGDA)
3.Ethoxylated Trimethylolpropane
triacrylate esters (ETPTA)
4.Silicon Dioxide
5.Hydroxycyclohexyl phenyl
ketone
6.Benzophenone
7.Titanium Dioxide
8.D&C Violet #2

from what i searched they're all vegan though some didn't come up in the search bar, the 8th was unclear i saw that it was synthetic but another source said that D&C colors aren't always vegan because they're apparently tested so i would be glad for some insight on that....since i couldn't find out how some are made and from what i would be glad for some insight on that too, if you know something please let us know :)))

i'll be uploading the soak off gel ingredients list next


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 Post subject: Re: gel manicures
PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:08 pm 
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artisan soak off gel ingredients:
1.Polyurethane Acrylate
Oligomer
2.2-Hydroxyethyl Methacrylate
3.Hydroxypropyl Methacrylate
4.Isobornyl Methacrylate
5.Hydroxycyclohexyl phenyl
ketone

this one is a really troublesome list because i could find almost none of them well at least from what they were made of so if anyone can enlighten me then please do!

this is it! hope i helped in some way, even though it's only the ingredients it's still more helpful when you know them instead of relying on the company's 'word'.


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