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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:21 am 
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so Oscars(/Twitter) drama: http://newsone.com/2247018/the-onion-quvenzhane-wallis/

but I'm actually curious about the outrage. is the problem with the word croissant? or saying something negative about a 9yo? or is it because of both together? or do you think it's internet-groupthink 'activism' responsible for the volume of outrage? (I mean sure, it's not in good taste, but it seems kind of like it's been taken out of proportion)

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:21 am 
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joshua wrote:
so Oscars(/Twitter) drama: http://newsone.com/2247018/the-onion-quvenzhane-wallis/

but I'm actually curious about the outrage. is the problem with the word croissant? or saying something negative about a 9yo? or is it because of both together? or do you think it's internet-groupthink 'activism' responsible for the volume of outrage? (I mean sure, it's not in good taste, but it seems kind of like it's been taken out of proportion)

Both. I'm not as mad about it as some people are, but I'm very disappointed in the Onion and I don't think it's being taken out of proportion at all. It's not okay to call someone a croissant. What could she have done to "deserve" that kind of remark, anyway?

ETA: The comment from the Onion is probably being considered especially annoying because of Seth MacWhatshisface's comment about how Quvenzhane will be too young for George Clooney in sixteen years.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:22 am 
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heh, I don't care about the Oscars, nor do I care if others like/hate it.. but Twitter-rage makes me curious :)

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:27 am 
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heh, I don't care about the Oscars, nor do I care if others like/hate it.. but Twitter-rage makes me curious :)

What makes you think it's rage? I don't have any strong feelings about the whole thing, but I wholeheartedly agree with the tweets. I think they express mild indignation at most.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:41 am 
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What makes you think it's rage? I don't have any strong feelings about the whole thing, but I wholeheartedly agree with the tweets. I think they express mild indignation at most.

it was RT'd a lot as opposed to people making their own comments

maybe 'rage' isn't the most apt term, but people were encourage people to never visit The Onion again, email the site/board, etc. pretty extreme to me..

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There is an older intoxicated gentleman on my bus singing Bangles songs at the top of his lungs.


I love him <3

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There is an older intoxicated gentleman on my bus singing Bangles songs at the top of his lungs.


I love him <3

I probably would too if he smelled better.

There is also someone in the back of the bus asking if anyone wants to rub his femoral artery.

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What makes you think it's rage? I don't have any strong feelings about the whole thing, but I wholeheartedly agree with the tweets. I think they express mild indignation at most.

it was RT'd a lot as opposed to people making their own comments

maybe 'rage' isn't the most apt term, but people were encourage people to never visit The Onion again, email the site/board, etc. pretty extreme to me..


I definitely think it was in poor taste and they shouldn't have tweeted it because it's just sad to call a 9 year old a croissant. On the other hand, I get why it's funny - because obviously she's just a cute little girl and calling her a croissant is totally ridiculous. And that's what The Onion does sometimes, they say the most ridiculous thing that is funny because it's so obvious how ridiculous it is. I don't know if I'm making any sense, but I honestly thought it was kind of funny even if they shouldn't have done it.

Maybe it's just the kind of joke you should only make in the company of your friends, and not on the internet.

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joshua wrote:
Jigglypuff wrote:
What makes you think it's rage? I don't have any strong feelings about the whole thing, but I wholeheartedly agree with the tweets. I think they express mild indignation at most.

it was RT'd a lot as opposed to people making their own comments

maybe 'rage' isn't the most apt term, but people were encourage people to never visit The Onion again, email the site/board, etc. pretty extreme to me..


I definitely think it was in poor taste and they shouldn't have tweeted it because it's just sad to call a 9 year old a croissant. On the other hand, I get why it's funny - because obviously she's just a cute little girl and calling her a croissant is totally ridiculous. And that's what The Onion does sometimes, they say the most ridiculous thing that is funny because it's so obvious how ridiculous it is. I don't know if I'm making any sense, but I honestly thought it was kind of funny even if they shouldn't have done it.

Maybe it's just the kind of joke you should only make in the company of your friends, and not on the internet.


I have to agree that it is definitely one of those things that should be only in the company of friends. Text isn't going to convey how you are actually saying it. I still have that to learn myself!


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ijustdiedinside wrote:
joshua wrote:
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What makes you think it's rage? I don't have any strong feelings about the whole thing, but I wholeheartedly agree with the tweets. I think they express mild indignation at most.

it was RT'd a lot as opposed to people making their own comments

maybe 'rage' isn't the most apt term, but people were encourage people to never visit The Onion again, email the site/board, etc. pretty extreme to me..


I definitely think it was in poor taste and they shouldn't have tweeted it because it's just sad to call a 9 year old a croissant. On the other hand, I get why it's funny - because obviously she's just a cute little girl and calling her a croissant is totally ridiculous. And that's what The Onion does sometimes, they say the most ridiculous thing that is funny because it's so obvious how ridiculous it is. I don't know if I'm making any sense, but I honestly thought it was kind of funny even if they shouldn't have done it.

Maybe it's just the kind of joke you should only make in the company of your friends, and not on the internet.


I think there are also problematic racial overtones. As others have pointed out, no one calls Dakota Fanning, Suri Cruise or other children names like that.

I thought this was a pretty insightful piece on that: http://www.forharriet.com/2013/02/for-q ... e-and.html

Just wanted to say that its pretty awesome that Quevenzhané is the the youngest actress ever to receive a nomination for the Academy Award for Best Actress. She is an amazing actress, and I hope we see a lot of her in the future.

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Isn't the c-word considered one of the worst words you can use for a woman in the US? I know that its a pretty mild insult in Australia, but I thought it would be a magnitude worse than "bisque" or "brat."

But, I agree that its not nice to call anyone names. :)

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I think there are also problematic racial overtones. As others have pointed out, no one calls Dakota Fanning, Suri Cruise or other children names like that.


When Dakota Fanning was 9, Twitter wasn't a thing. Neither was Facebook. Social Networking wasn't that much a thing. And I am pretty sure I myself have called Dakota Fanning that exact word. Because I hate her desperately for no real reason I can put my finger on, but also because that most hated of words is my absolute favourite. At least, it is as of late. I know this makes me a bad person, please don't spit on me.

But seriously, it was absolutely a terrible joke and in very bad taste and when I read the tweet (only because this thread directed me to it) I absolutely laughed out loud.

She's being called this because she's the youngest actress to ever be nominated and that puts her in a bit of a special spotlight. She could be white or green or purple polka dotted and The Onion would have come up with the same terrible joke. But the fact that a lot of people are saying this is a race issue really bother me because it wouldn't be mentioned at all if she was of a different race.

And that's all I have to say about that.

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I absolutely do not think that the Onion would have called Ms. Wallis a croissant if she were white. I read the implication as "holy shiitake, a young black girl who is proud of her ENORMOUS ACHIEVEMENT, how dare she be proud and confident and correct people on her name, what an uppity bisque."

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