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 Post subject: Re: Communism and punk rock
PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:52 am 
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jstrodel wrote:

Punk rock and leftist politics have ruined my life. ?


And Christianity tried to ruin mine but notice how I am not on Christian message boards going "Aaaaargh, f*^k, the Indigo Girls, Amy Grant. Evil, evil, evil"? That's because I don't have time and also it's not a very effective way of arguing your cause.

I am sure you have had some horrible stuff happen to you and I am sure that you were involved in leftist politics and the punk movement. Whether there is a causal link and whether your life would have been different without punk, no one can know.

If you want to talk about this in a more reasonable way, that's fine. Otherwise...

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 Post subject: Re: Communism and punk rock
PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:33 am 
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Why does no one ever see the Post in Post Punk Kitchen?

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 Post subject: Re: Communism and punk rock
PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:45 am 
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I'm guessing no. I can also personally say I've never listened to punk music so I was never punk nor post punk but I understand the sentiment.

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 Post subject: Re: Communism and punk rock
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I think we encroached too close to bursting his delusions and so he left. So long, comrade!

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 Post subject: Re: Communism and punk rock
PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:46 am 
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One time a communist punk gave me drugs and I DIED.

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 Post subject: Re: Communism and punk rock
PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:10 am 
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Why does no one ever see the Post in Post Punk Kitchen?


Because saying "New Wave ruined my life!" isn't really quite as catchy a slogan.

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 Post subject: Re: Communism and punk rock
PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:41 am 
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Why does no one ever see the Post in Post Punk Kitchen?


Because saying "New Wave ruined my life!" isn't really quite as catchy a slogan.

But he did say he thought Joy Division were good. I'm confused.

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 Post subject: Re: Communism and punk rock
PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:44 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Communism and punk rock
PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:52 pm 
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Punks that do drugs are so much more fun to hang out with.

I think the church does a pretty good job at turning people away without any help from Communists. After all you ain't wanted in a lot of them if your gay, bi, transsexual, a woman, not white, etc.......hell some church's are probably against veganism too. Hey remember the witch hunts and burning witch's at the stake? Please keep that tyrannical christianity away from me!


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 Post subject: Re: Communism and punk rock
PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:24 pm 
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At the risk of beating soothing a dead sleeping horse, I would like to say:

I think Communism—as practiced by actual humans in the actual world—has been a pretty shitty thing. Evil, even. Mao, Stalin, and so on—these were bad people who cared about unchecked power, not freedom. Could Communism be a good thing, if done "right"? How do I know?

Regardless, the idea that people who are into punk rock are actually all about supporting strict, regimented, authoritarian, repressive regimes seems silly.

And regardless of that, I really don't see why we're talking about it here, in this way.

And my name is in orange.

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 Post subject: Re: Communism and punk rock
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And my name is in orange.



Are you a big deal? You sound like a big deal. Wait...did you have a blog?!

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 Post subject: Re: Communism and punk rock
PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:30 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Communism and punk rock
PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:07 pm 
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Right, well Big Deals have people to remember things for them.

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 Post subject: Re: Communism and punk rock
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This is what happens when you stay vegan for too long.

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 Post subject: Re: Communism and punk rock
PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:50 pm 
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Vantine wrote:
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I can't remember.


This is what happens when you stay vegan for too long.

That and the boobies.

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 Post subject: Re: Communism and punk rock
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My 1st year of High School English teacher told us Communism, in the ideal, in theory, wasn't necessarily a bad thing. We all thought she was nuts because she told us about naked ironing when we were 12 and, ewwwww, naked people! And also because, Cold War and evil and such only happened some years before. So I ran home an told my mum about how the "crazy wacky teacher who takes her clothes off IN HER HOUSE told us Communism didn't have to be a bad thing" And then my mum said that that was TRUE! And my mind was forking blown.

And then I wrote my undergrad honours dissertation about communism/post-communism.

I am not interesting.

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 Post subject: Re: Communism and punk rock
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yeah, i don't see anything wrong with taking from the fortunate to ensure that the unfortunate aren't living destitute.

i think capitalism is far worse than communism. if you can't trust people to do the right thing (and you can't. do you SEE the state of america these days?), then fairness needs to be enforced.

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 Post subject: Re: Communism and punk rock
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I can't remember.


This is what happens when you stay vegan for too long.

That and the boobies.

Does every thread have to be about either poo or boobies?

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I am interesting.

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 Post subject: Re: Communism and punk rock
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 Post subject: Re: Communism and punk rock
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 Post subject: Re: Communism and punk rock
PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:17 pm 
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matwinser wrote:
jstrodel wrote:

Punk rock and leftist politics have ruined my life. ?


And Christianity tried to ruin mine but notice how I am not on Christian message boards going "Aaaaargh, f*^k, the Indigo Girls, Amy Grant. Evil, evil, evil"? That's because I don't have time and also it's not a very effective way of arguing your cause.

I am sure you have had some horrible stuff happen to you and I am sure that you were involved in leftist politics and the punk movement. Whether there is a causal link and whether your life would have been different without punk, no one can know.

If you want to talk about this in a more reasonable way, that's fine. Otherwise...

Your left leaning totalitarian mod

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What do you consider to be a more reasonable way? That isn't what I said. Some punk bands ARE Marxist/Communist, that is a fact. I don't see why what I am doing is unreasonable.

Is this a politics forum for vegans to just pat each other on the back and tell each other how compassionate they are? Why do you have a politics forum if you don't want to debate?

I don't see what the issue is. I am not writing to peas anyone off, I am writing because I care. Is there any point to politics other than being accepted or something like that? Don't you care about the people who disagree with you?


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 Post subject: Re: Communism and punk rock
PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:27 pm 
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it's unreasonable because . . . like, we were all hanging out in the park together eating vegan potato salad and oreos, and you marched up and called us commie punks and started talking about god and stuff, and we were all, "what? we're listening to k-pop and morrissey, man, we don't know anything about heroin," but you just kept lecturing us about how we should stop being marxists and killing people with our dirty needles and faulty ideals. it was a weird way to introduce yourself, and it just kept getting weirder.

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 Post subject: Re: Communism and punk rock
PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:31 pm 
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jstrodel wrote:
Is there any point to politics other than being accepted or something like that? Don't you care about the people who disagree with you?


The point of the politics forum is to act as a platform for former punks turned Christians with no visible interest in vegan cooking to rant against Communism.

Sometimes we get jerks coming in here though. You know the type. Always participating in other parts of the forum and taking an active interest in veganism. They tend to post things relative to current events or animal rights.

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