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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:35 pm 
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I couldn't deal with the article, but the comments are hilarious!

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Top 10: Subtle Ways to Tell Him He’s Getting Bald.
As we all know, men are sensitive creatures. You don’t want to come out and say “You know, they have something called Rogaine.” Sometimes you need subtle ways of letting him know that his follicles are getting a little, well, subtle.
Here are top 10 ways to give him the gentle hint.
10. Start wearing baseball caps yourself.
9. Shave your own head.
8. Work Sy Sperling into everyday conversations, as in, “I wonder what Sy Sperling is having for dinner.”.
7. While he’s subtly pinching your love-handles, subtly pinch his bald spot(s).
6. Spike his beer with Propecia. If he experiences low sex drive as a side effect, he’ll just figure he’s losing Testosterone and hair.
5. Plan a vacation to Jamaica and continually comment on all the gorgeous dreadlocks.
4. Tell him that your favorite fairy tale is Rapunzel.
3. Ask him to help you prepare a box for good will of things “we” no longer need, and in it put a comb and shampoo.
2. Leave “now and then” photos lying around.
1. Tell him that you’re concerned that you’re getting too fat for him and to cover your problem areas, you’d like to borrow his hair

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Great article, but you forgot the last step: Realize that you are purposefully cultivating insecurity and self-loathing in someone you claim to love and punch yourself in the dick.


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 Post subject: Re: Who challenges your feminism in your life?
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I love that!

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 Post subject: Re: Who challenges your feminism in your life?
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Articles like these, making the assumption that because I am a woman I am supposed to automotically be nurturing and supportive and want children.

http://nymag.com/news/features/retro-wife-2013-3/


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 Post subject: Re: Who challenges your feminism in your life?
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Articles like these, making the assumption that because I am a woman I am supposed to automotically be nurturing and supportive and want children.

http://nymag.com/news/features/retro-wife-2013-3/
I seriously don't even know where to start with that.

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The maternal instinct is a real thing, Kelly argues: Girls play with dolls from childhood, so “women are raised from the get-go to raise children successfully. When we are moms, we have a better toolbox.” Women, she believes, are conditioned to be more patient with children, to be better multitaskers, to be more tolerant of the quotidian grind of playdates and temper tantrums; “women,” she says, “keep it together better than guys do.”
Um, first she says it's an "instinct," but then she says girls are "raised" and "conditioned to be more patient with children" which are two different things. Which is by no means the biggest thing wrong with this piece but that kind of sloppy thinking drives me batty.

Don't get me wrong; I think it's awesome for parents to stay home with their kids if they want and are able to do so. But airy declarations like "feminism has fizzled, its promise only half-fulfilled," combined with the tacit assumption that mothers should (and should want to) stay home make me feel like my head is going to explode. I mean, seriously?

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...in blue-state cities and suburbs, young, educated, married mothers find themselves not uninterested in the metaconversation about “having it all” but untouched by it. They are too busy mining their grandmothers’ old-fashioned lives for values they can appropriate like heirlooms, then wear proudly as their own.
Well, how very nice for them. Too bad those mothers (apparently lacking in the appropriate "instinct" and/or conditioning) who choose or - LE GASP - need to work outside the house can't get their priorities straight.

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 Post subject: Re: Who challenges your feminism in your life?
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Hahahaha, wait! Children who play with dolls grow up to be successful parents? Because dolls are even remotely similar to a real child??

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 Post subject: Re: Who challenges your feminism in your life?
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Hahahaha, wait! Children who play with dolls grow up to be successful parents? Because dolls are even remotely similar to a real child??
What, you don't take your kids' heads off to change their outfits?

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 Post subject: Re: Who challenges your feminism in your life?
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Desdemona wrote:
Mr. Shankly wrote:
Hahahaha, wait! Children who play with dolls grow up to be successful parents? Because dolls are even remotely similar to a real child??
What, you don't take your kids' heads off to change their outfits?


I think it is beneficial for children to play with dolls in terms of their success as future parents. Not that kids that don't can't be great parents and those that do will, but pretend play is very important in our development. That said, we also teach our children how to pretend play, whether with dolls or trucks, and that article sounds really stupid. Glad I haven't read it.


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 Post subject: Re: Who challenges your feminism in your life?
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Is Torrington Another Steubenville?

All the same victim-blaming language. I can't even. We had the Texas case where even the NYT intimated that the 11 year old victim was asking for it and the whole town turned against her and now something similar in Torrington. At what age do we start victim blaming? A friend of mine did a case where the mother blamed her 2 year old for "being a slut" and seducing her boyfriend, but I think most people would agree that that is pretty extreme.

Lawyers for the 11 year old gang rape victim in Texas call victim a "spider, luring men into her web." http://jezebel.com/5964064/lawyer-says- ... n-into-web. The good news is that people appear to be being convicted and sentenced in that case.

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 Post subject: Re: Who challenges your feminism in your life?
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This forking article.

I am so tired of rape apologists conflating "sympathy" with "compassion" and for fork's sake, I don't care if Anna March helped found RAINN--that doesn't excuse her from making a beyond-shitty argument.

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 Post subject: Re: Who challenges your feminism in your life?
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This forking article.

I am so tired of rape apologists conflating "sympathy" with "compassion" and for fork's sake, I don't care if Anna March helped found RAINN--that doesn't excuse her from making a beyond-shitty argument.

Ugh, I just read that. It was pretty forking atrocious.

Plus, at one point she seems to say being coerced into sex is bad but at another point she says we should just silently abide the sex we don't want to have?

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 Post subject: Re: Who challenges your feminism in your life?
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Basically she is no different from all those proponents of a hierarchy of rape - there is 'legitimate rape' and anyone who didn't have a legitimate rape is devaluing what the real suriviors of legitimate rapeyrape have suffered.

I don't take any issue with her saying that what happened to her wasn't rape. I'm not going to judge her experience and if she felt like she consented, then that is fine. But if another person experiences something as rape, I think it is troubling to say that it wasn't rapey enough. The legal definition that the law sets is sexual contact without consent and the burden of proof is on the victim, who has focus on proving, beyond a reasonable doubt, that they did not consent. so much of that hinges on the intent of the parties involved - but just because you are comfortable that you consented to something doesn't mean you can make that judgement for another person.

and comparing what some women experience as rape to bad anal sex - something you didn't enjoy which then teaches you your sexual boundaries - yikes.

Its just horrible.

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Is Torrington Another Steubenville?

All the same victim-blaming language. I can't even. We had the Texas case where even the NYT intimated that the 11 year old victim was asking for it and the whole town turned against her and now something similar in Torrington. At what age do we start victim blaming? A friend of mine did a case where the mother blamed her 2 year old for "being a slut" and seducing her boyfriend, but I think most people would agree that that is pretty extreme.

Lawyers for the 11 year old gang rape victim in Texas call victim a "spider, luring men into her web." http://jezebel.com/5964064/lawyer-says- ... n-into-web. The good news is that people appear to be being convicted and sentenced in that case.
WHAT. THE. F.UCK????

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 Post subject: Re: Who challenges your feminism in your life?
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You really want a car with enough room to stuff several bound and gagged women.

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ugh, I saw that headline about North Dakota while eating lunch today and I screamed at my smoothie.


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I got the NY Times news alert and was in total denial. I was like no, I can't be reading that right; it doesn't make any sense.

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Brian has a friend (or friend of a friend, whatevs) who had to have multiple people sit him down and tell him, "If you don't stop posting naked porn pictures on twitter, instagram, and facebook, i'm going to unfollow you.", 1. Complained multiple times about girls who wear makeup (and Brian pointed out that he wears eyeliner sometimes), 2. Tweeted that girls who don't shave their legs are gross, and 3. Followed that directly with a tweet that he guesses 'girls don't like him anymore'. Also all of the girls on OK Cupid are 'butters'.

It's like a forking cartoon character of a sexist pig.

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Brian has a friend (or friend of a friend, whatevs) who had to have multiple people sit him down and tell him, "If you don't stop posting naked porn pictures on twitter, instagram, and facebook, i'm going to unfollow you.", 1. Complained multiple times about girls who wear makeup (and Brian pointed out that he wears eyeliner sometimes), 2. Tweeted that girls who don't shave their legs are gross, and 3. Followed that directly with a tweet that he guesses 'girls don't like him anymore'. Also all of the girls on OK Cupid are 'butters'.

It's like a forking cartoon character of a sexist pig.


A friend of mine was just telling me about something he witnessed, two drunk men (in the middle of the afternoon) ogling a woman walking by and saying "yeah, that's good, that's nice... she got those saddlebags though, gotta work on that." My friend was like hey drunk shitbags, maybe you gotta work on your own stuff.

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Rick Ross glorifying drugging and raping women.
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Oh, wrong Rick Ross. I thought of the cult guy and had a what the fizzle moment.

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David Petraeus is now making his way back from his scandal: http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/201 ... ffair.html

Tiger Woods is now the face of a Nike Ad called "Winning Takes Care of Everything."

How fast we forgive men for their scandals, but keep punishing women for theirs. Clinton comes back and Lewinsky is still a joke.

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I'm at a bit of a loss for words. This is a huge thread on Reddit called "Women Have No Value Beyond Their P*ssies." Warning - it's very disturbing.

A couple of quotes. I'm gonna spoiler them because they're forking obscene.
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Remember: your mom is only your mom because a man forked her kitten, and unless you were the result of rape, she was forked because she wanted to be forked.

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What a cute feisty little thing you are. I raw dog women like you. I hope you find that empowering.

It terrifies me to know that there are ACTUAL PEOPLE in the world who are like this, especially since the OP is a U.S. solider.

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what the fizzle did I just read.

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Every day I try to be positive about this and it just another creep on the underground train coming over to me, standing so close he touches my side and say something & make vulgar gestures and I feel completely helpless again and triggered. It just makes me think, if one guy in the middle of the day on the train makes me feel so powerless, makes it impossible for me to move, etc etc, how can I take on this whole horrible world? Really makes me want to hide in my bed.

On a more general note: I know I should never read comments on the internet, yet I do! Sexism galore :(

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