| Register  | FAQ  | Search | Login 
It is currently Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:49 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 53 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: The Square is outta control
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:17 pm 
Slept through a huge sale, OH NO!
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:59 am
Posts: 1034
Oh! And I went to the new Stone Brewery + Bistro now at Liberty Station. Some ambiance is missing when compared to the landmark No County location but the vegan shepherds pie, which I love, is again on the menu after a kitchen remodel hiatus. And of the course the beer is fierce. It's a lovely location in its own right; service is good.

Speaking of shepherd's pie, as I was, there is a vegan version served at Ritual Tavern is good, but quite different. At Ritual I prefered the homemade lentil burger which was yum, and always do get the homemade hummus, you wont be disappointed. Food here is mostly farm to table, locally sourced, and lovely.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Square is outta control
PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:02 am 
Nooch of Earl
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:18 pm
Posts: 3396
Location: Bella Napoli
See, now I want to have a discussion about that Shepherd's pie, but the mods are going to be all "back on topic!" if I do. Time to go reclaim the SoCal forum from LA.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Square is outta control
PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:00 am 
Trapped On A Desert Island With A Cow
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:20 pm
Posts: 455
Location: somewhere in London, loving my life in the rain
I've found Happy Cow very useful usually. But it's only as good as the updates it gets and those come from us. When you find a place closed or different from the way it was described do you let them know? It's only out of date because people don't let them know. Whenever I send them updates they are quick to revise the listing. I have also added new places. I find the reviews very useful and I sometimes add reviews to keep things current.

I agree that in places where vegan options are limited the Happy Cow criteria won't allow some places with just a vegan dish or two to be listed which is a shame as there is usually nowhere else to find out about these things unless you know other vegans in the area.

I like having the sub forums in the square so if I'm going to a particular place I don't have to wade through stuff about other places. I think people read these sub forums because they are interested so I feel I can go into more detail in my posts there too.

Another type of listings and reviews resource would be very welcome and your ideas so far sound very interesting Isa.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Square is outta control
PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:08 am 
Has it on Blue Vinyl
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:31 pm
Posts: 2023
Location: Austin, TX
I think top dishes is better in a lot of ways than top restaurants too because than it doesn't matter where it's coming from. Also then people won't order wrong! It sucks when you only have one shot at a place and you order something stupid and miss out on the best thing at a restaurant.

_________________
blarg Lazy Smurf's Guide to Life
twitter @veganLazySmurf
Pinterest


Top
 Profile WWW  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Square is outta control
PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:09 am 
Memorized Veganomicon
Offline

Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:02 pm
Posts: 98
Location: Vancouver
As someone who travels for work regularly I find it does take using multiple sites - Happy Cow, Yelp, individual blogs and this site to get a good sense of the gems of the city.

I think the social aspects of The Square should be separate from the restaurant listings.

I've always thought the best travel site would a website that had up to date information on the restaurant along with links to blog reviews of that particular place. This way you can decide how far you want to travel from where you're sleeping that night.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Square is outta control
PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:14 pm 
Venomous Head of Veganism
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:21 pm
Posts: 8475
annak wrote:
See, now I want to have a discussion about that Shepherd's pie, but the mods are going to be all "back on topic!" if I do.

I don't think so, it seems like people only try to stay on topic with, like, hot button issues. Like pasta salad.

_________________
"You guys are a little bit fast to identify as not-mumbles. " ~ mumbles


Top
 Profile WWW  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Square is outta control
PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:59 pm 
Invented Vegan Meringue
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:18 pm
Posts: 3650
Location: Portland, OR
I was thinking about this a lot this morning and how revolutionary a return to well written, cuisine-focused reviews would be vs. blogger-eats-food and announces-blogger-ness focused reviews, which is so much more common place now.

_________________
comesconewithme.com
& @jdfunks on that thing


Top
 Profile WWW  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Square is outta control
PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:59 pm 
Top of the food chain & doesn't need to prove it
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:19 pm
Posts: 649
I love love love the Square. It's my favourite room on the board. I travel a ton, and always come here first. I think it's mad useful to travelers, and I learn a lot about my two home cities as well.

The one thing I wish was different is that there's no way to keep a constantly-updated list of restaurants/places to eat/visit, so often we get dozens of threads for cities like NYC and Portland. I've tried to keep the Paris thread updated, but one still has to sift through to find information, since some of the places on the first page no longer exist, and new places have popped up. So if there were a way for each hot spot to have one central place to list must eats/must dos that could be updated, that would be great.

I really like how specific the groupings are by city and, in some cases, country. I think the subdivision of the Square into many cities/regions has been really helpful.

_________________
Chicken>Lacan all day, any day. -pandacookie


Last edited by molasses jane on Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Square is outta control
PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:02 pm 
Invented Vegan Meringue
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:18 pm
Posts: 3650
Location: Portland, OR
I think a 'Where to dine' or 'Where are you dining?' thread in each room would be an amazing start.

_________________
comesconewithme.com
& @jdfunks on that thing


Top
 Profile WWW  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Square is outta control
PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:16 am 
Invented Vegan Meringue
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:12 pm
Posts: 3828
Location: Canberra, Australia
I think a blog sort of deal would be really fun, if it were like a 'living document' kind of thing (ugh, I sound like people at work). But what I mean is that people post their experiences, but go back and update when stuff changes or remove things when places close. And written by people I trust! I always look for vegan bloggers' travel entries before I go somewhere, and they're sometimes really useful (Amey's Morocco posts were awesome!) but a lot of the time they're outdated and do stuff like get me really psyched for empanadas that haven't existed since 2008.

I would also love entries about places for vegan groceries in other cities because Happy Cow just lists every health food store and there are way too many to scroll through to find one that's particularly good.

_________________
Recipes. Rants. Raunch.


Last edited by Erinnerung on Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:23 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile WWW  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Square is outta control
PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:23 am 
Invented Vegan Meringue
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:12 pm
Posts: 3828
Location: Canberra, Australia
Oh, another thing that would be fun is if people who lived in these places wrote out walking tour guides or something for their city that took you via good places to eat. You know how in-flight magazines sometimes have those '24 hours in Sydney' (or wherever) articles? Like that, but fitting in awesome meals and maybe a trip to a specialty vegan store or something among the sights.

_________________
Recipes. Rants. Raunch.


Top
 Profile WWW  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Square is outta control
PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:14 am 
Wears Durian Helmet
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:14 am
Posts: 866
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
rentaghost wrote:
I've found Happy Cow very useful usually. But it's only as good as the updates it gets and those come from us. When you find a place closed or different from the way it was described do you let them know? It's only out of date because people don't let them know. Whenever I send them updates they are quick to revise the listing. I have also added new places. I find the reviews very useful and I sometimes add reviews to keep things current.


+1 to this!

_________________
My blog about travel, campaigning, activism, vegan food and stuff.


Top
 Profile WWW  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Square is outta control
PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:13 am 
Making Threats to Punks Again
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:38 am
Posts: 1144
Location: Windmill row
rentaghost wrote:
I've found Happy Cow very useful usually. But it's only as good as the updates it gets and those come from us. When you find a place closed or different from the way it was described do you let them know? It's only out of date because people don't let them know. Whenever I send them updates they are quick to revise the listing. I have also added new places. I find the reviews very useful and I sometimes add reviews to keep things current.

I agree that in places where vegan options are limited the Happy Cow criteria won't allow some places with just a vegan dish or two to be listed which is a shame as there is usually nowhere else to find out about these things unless you know other vegans in the area.

I also try to keep Happy Cow updated for my region.

It is true though that Happy Cow is not much use in areas where the few vegan options are hidden in omni restaurants. For those places a menu-item based site like this would work better, but it has only a few entries at this point.

_________________
Can you read Dutch? Kom eens kijken op Vegetus!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Square is outta control
PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:30 am 
Aired her grievances, lost the feat of strength
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:56 pm
Posts: 3751
Location: Brighton, England.
It would be super rad to have a website that collects travel posts by vegan bloggers together. I see it being organised by place (Continent > Country > Region > City) and also in chronological order so that it's easy for people to access the most up to date info on the place they're headed fast.

I do my best to keep my blog updated when things have closed down but I can only really keep on top of places in Brighton, it's hard to go back over everything! I'm planning on re-vamping my blog to make it easier to navigate the travel stuff later this year and I'd be really, really into teaming up with people to create a central travel site.

As for The Square, I like that places like PDX, UK & Ireland etc have their own forums but I feel like some threads are getting neglected (like in the Asia forums) and they might get more traffic if they were thrown back into the regular square.

RE: Happy Cow, I like it as a resource but, yeah, as people have said it's up to us to update it! It's great when you're somewhere random and can use the app to drop the pins around where you are and something awesome and unexpected pops up!

I think that HC actually have quite a broad criteria for what gets included based upon what else is in the area if you contact them by e-mail. For example if somewhere has maybe one vegan option in London or NYC it probably wouldn't get on there but if there's hardly anything else near there or the option's something special then they're likely to include it if you drop 'em a line explaining why.

Erinnerung wrote:
Oh, another thing that would be fun is if people who lived in these places wrote out walking tour guides or something for their city that took you via good places to eat. You know how in-flight magazines sometimes have those '24 hours in Sydney' (or wherever) articles? Like that, but fitting in awesome meals and maybe a trip to a specialty vegan store or something among the sights.


I'm working on one of these for Brighton right now!

joshua wrote:
LazySmurf wrote:
joshua wrote:
oh! one thing that would be awesome for travel, would be quick references to translations of (non-)vegan terms ("no milk, no eggs, no cheese" typed things)

The vegetarian society makes a vegan passport

"stuff" that I have to carry is my mortal enemy

edit: ah, didn't see the next post. will hunt down the app!


My main issue with the vegan passport are 1 - it feels super rude to whip it out when you're trying to converse with someone in a different language. I kinda use it as a last resort! and 2 - It's no good when you're trying to read labels! I make these lists of non-vegan words to look out for in each language and keep a print out in my wallet...like this and then with the translation into whatever language next to them. I'm planning on including PDF's of these on the new fancy blog! (let me know if something obvious is missing from these, I don't know if they'll be overly useful in Asia. I'm in the middle of doing one for Japan and I think it needs some work!)

Egg -
Milk -
Lactose -
Whey -
Whey Powder -
Casean -
Cholesterol -
Gelatin -
Honey -
Beeswax -
Butter -
Cream -
Dairy -
Lard -
Fish -
Chicken -
Cheese -
Rennet -
Tallow -
Shellac -
Carmine -
Lanolin -

_________________
Blog: Vegan.In.Brighton.

Not-For-Profit Cupcakes: Operation Icing.


Top
 Profile WWW  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Square is outta control
PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:11 am 
Chard Martyr
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:30 pm
Posts: 9385
Location: Vancouver Island
jdfunks wrote:
I was thinking about this a lot this morning and how revolutionary a return to well written, cuisine-focused reviews would be vs. blogger-eats-food and announces-blogger-ness focused reviews, which is so much more common place now.

YES!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Square is outta control
PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:11 pm 
Top of the food chain & doesn't need to prove it
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:55 pm
Posts: 651
Location: Ich bin ein Oaklander
joshua wrote:
"stuff" that I have to carry is my mortal enemy

edit: ah, didn't see the next post. will hunt down the app!


Not to derail the outta control but it seems to have changed content since I posted this and only has one phrase available (I am a vegetarian) so if you do find it, I hope it still has the whole library of phrases (I don't eat meat, does this have any dairy? &c) available. Sometimes living in the future is confusing.


Top
 Profile WWW  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Square is outta control
PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:14 am 
WRETCHED
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:54 pm
Posts: 7995
Location: Maryland/DC area
jdfunks wrote:
I think a 'Where to dine' or 'Where are you dining?' thread in each room would be an amazing start.


Well then I am going to go back to suggesting that we need a mid-Atlantic forum then. We aren't dirty south and we aren't New England. A place where people in northern Virginia, DC, Maryland, Delaware and West Virginia can come together.

_________________
You are all a disgrace to vegans. Go f*ck yourselves, especially linanil.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Square is outta control
PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:49 am 
Venomous Head of Veganism
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:21 pm
Posts: 8475
What about something like this. A site where multiple contributors are responsible-ish for their area. So. You'd have, say, a Chicago rep, and that person would be in charge of keeping the vegan options in their area up-to-date. They wouldn't have to do it alone, they'd have other contributors to help. So, the Chicago rep would have other writers that could blog interesting new finds in their neighborhood. All writers would be approved and make an x-amount of time commitment, and receive perks or something for their contributions. And of course we could also take anonymous tips and have comments open for vegan-on-the-street reports.

There could also be multiple bloggers just keeping general stuff up to snuff. Say, vegan-friendly resorts, cruises, hotels, rest-stops, etc.

So. A blog highlighting fun and interesting things. Also, a guide with area reps. And of course the area reps would be able to blog, too. And everything would be well organized and moderated.

_________________
"You guys are a little bit fast to identify as not-mumbles. " ~ mumbles


Top
 Profile WWW  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Square is outta control
PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:51 am 
Top of the food chain & doesn't need to prove it
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:19 pm
Posts: 649
IsaChandra wrote:
What about something like this. A site where multiple contributors are responsible-ish for their area. So. You'd have, say, a Chicago rep, and that person would be in charge of keeping the vegan options in their area up-to-date. They wouldn't have to do it alone, they'd have other contributors to help. So, the Chicago rep would have other writers that could blog interesting new finds in their neighborhood. All writers would be approved and make an x-amount of time commitment, and receive perks or something for their contributions. And of course we could also take anonymous tips and have comments open for vegan-on-the-street reports.

There could also be multiple bloggers just keeping general stuff up to snuff. Say, vegan-friendly resorts, cruises, hotels, rest-stops, etc.

So. A blog highlighting fun and interesting things. Also, a guide with area reps. And of course the area reps would be able to blog, too. And everything would be well organized and moderated.


I think that sounds good. But is this in addition to, or instead of, the Square? I want to keep the Square--it's so useful too!

_________________
Chicken>Lacan all day, any day. -pandacookie


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Square is outta control
PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:11 pm 
Venomous Head of Veganism
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:21 pm
Posts: 8475
No, the square would stay. I'm thinking a whole 'nother vegan travel site.

_________________
"You guys are a little bit fast to identify as not-mumbles. " ~ mumbles


Top
 Profile WWW  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Square is outta control
PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:32 pm 
Top of the food chain & doesn't need to prove it
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:19 pm
Posts: 649
IsaChandra wrote:
a whole 'nother vegan travel site.


*love*

_________________
Chicken>Lacan all day, any day. -pandacookie


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Square is outta control
PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:07 am 
Chard Martyr
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:30 pm
Posts: 9385
Location: Vancouver Island
Dibs on Vancouver Island! :)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Square is outta control
PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:34 am 
Invented Vegan Meringue
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:16 pm
Posts: 3688
Location: Panama City, Florida
That sounds amazing, Isa! Would be really rad to have people in smaller towns to cover their regions too. Finding the gems in small towns is super hard.

_________________
etsy shop: teeny tiny tantrums
blog: vegan kid!


Top
 Profile WWW  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Square is outta control
PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:47 am 
Venomous Head of Veganism
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:21 pm
Posts: 8475
Kelly wrote:
That sounds amazing, Isa! Would be really rad to have people in smaller towns to cover their regions too. Finding the gems in small towns is super hard.

Yah! Now to figure out how to fund it and build it...

_________________
"You guys are a little bit fast to identify as not-mumbles. " ~ mumbles


Top
 Profile WWW  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Square is outta control
PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:20 am 
Bought a used copy of Natural Harvest
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:29 pm
Posts: 5881
I'd be happy to be the/a contributor for SW Ontario! If it's here (in the most populated part of Canada!) I know about it.

_________________
Did you notice the slight feeling of panic at the words "Chicken Basin Street"? Like someone was walking over your grave? Try not to remember. We must never remember. - mumbles
Is this about devilberries and nazifruit again? - footface


Top
 Profile WWW  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic  [ 53 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
Template made by DEVPPL/ThatBigForum and fancied up by What Cheer