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 Post subject: Talk to me about pressure cookers
PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 3:52 pm 
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I want one without the jiggly thing on top that won't explode. I don't really know anything about them, and looking at them on Amazon is a little overwhelming. I'm more interested in cooking than canning.


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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 3:55 pm 
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we have one with a jiggly thing - no problem at all. it's awesome, and easy to use. all you need to do is either (a) let the whole thing cool, or (b) do a rapid cool-down by putting the whole thing in the sink & running cool water over it. awesome for beans!


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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 4:10 pm 
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I've had a Fagor Duo 6 qt for 9 years and it's been good to me. I especially like it for cooking chickpeas.

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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 4:25 pm 
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I have this one. I use it daily.

http://www.amazon.com/Kuhn-Rikon-3916-D ... +duromatic

Mostly for cooking beans from scratch, but also to steam (it comes with a steamer tray) kale, beets, seitan, potatoes, and to make soups/stews.

I used to have an electric one, Faberware I think?, that was a stand alone appliance. You could set it on a timer, kinda like a slow cooker. It broke after 2-3 years of use. I like the one I have now better. It's easier to use and more versatile. It's just a pot for the stove with a special lid. I've been using it for 5 years or so.

Something to keep in mind, do you have a gas or electric range? Gas is easier to use with a stovetop model. If you have an electric range, you might want an electric pressure cooker appliance.


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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 5:46 pm 
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yes, i have always had the cheapie jiggle-top ones. get one with a safety release valve in the lid. follow the directions about fill volume, keep the rubber parts in good working order and they're great. They don't explode. I have had the top get clogged, worst case scenario, and the safety valve blew out. Scary and noisy as all hell but it worked the way it was supposed to.
entire nations of people use these things every day [most people here in BR have one for beans and another big one for meat]. they're ubiquitous.

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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 10:50 pm 
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get one before you get older! I got the Fagor Duo 6 qt also, only a couple of years ago. It's great for beans, and can be used as a stock pot as well. We got a glass lid for occasional cooking without pressure. Pressure cooking saves time and energy/cooking fuel. It's not too complicated.


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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 6:39 am 
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I started with the Fagor Duo, which was great, but then I switched to an electric/countertop one which is good because all I do is put stuff in and push a button. It isn't the greatest for finishing stuff off like if my beans are extra watery but I'm sure there is a way, i just never figured it out. I'm kind of sold on a countertop one unless you have no where to store it.

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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 7:13 am 
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We have gas. I do prefer the idea of having a stovetop cooker, just because I'd like to be able to saute stuff first and then finish off dishes... not sure if that's possible in a countertop cooker? Plus, there's the issue of electric breaking. It's harder to break a big hunk of metal.


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 Post subject: Re: Talk to me about pressure cookers
PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 1:43 pm 
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You can definitly saute stuff first in the countertop ones. In fact, I highly reccomend one. They are very convenient since they have timers and stuff on them. I am cheap as hell, and I must admit this is something that I feel is worth the price tag. I use mine 3-4 times a week at LEAST.

I had this one for years, died after HEAVY use
http://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-CPC-600 ... ure+cooker

Then I just recently go this one for my birthday
http://www.amazon.com/T-fal-CY4000001-6 ... ure+cooker
and so far so good. I often make soups and curries in here where I saute stuff first, then add the beans and liquid, and just bring it to pressure after that.

(The Emeril stuff is actually really really good! I have a set of the pans, and they are comparable to the caphalon ones. Usually I don't buy into the celebrity endorsed stuff, but it was all gifts. Glad I got them!)


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 Post subject: Re: Talk to me about pressure cookers
PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 4:33 pm 
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I have nothing to add regarding buying advice as I got mine from a charity shop. However, I love it. I steam seitan sausages in it, do beans, and make soups. It's my most treasured kitchen possession!

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I have this one. It is the best thing EVER and totally changed my life! Looking back I have never, ever used the saucepan so I would just get a stockpot if I were to do it again.

http://www.amazon.com/Kuhn-Rikon-6-Piec ... ure+cooker


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 Post subject: Re: Talk to me about pressure cookers
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:53 pm 
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Bumping because I believe that every vegan (or bean eater) should have a pressure cooker. Why, why did I wait so long to buy one? As a kid, I was scared of the pressure cooker (old style) and the memories made me steer well clear but now that I have one, I am choked it took so long to overcome my fear. I ended up getting a jiggly style presto 8 Quart (with safety valve and quick release) for really cheap new/used at the Salvation Army...it was too cheap not to buy.

2 1/2 minutes to cook Kidney beans, 9 minutes for Garbanzo beans, etc etc....so much time and energy saved it is worth it just for the legumes! Lots of beans you don't even have to soak and they cook in minutes. They are pretty cheap on Amazon too and I can see myself using it 3-4 times a week for veg/grain/beans. Lots


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 Post subject: Re: Talk to me about pressure cookers
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:02 pm 
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thanks for bumping this. I've always been interested in them ,but they freak me out. I don't eat beans very often...wonder if it's worth it just for seitan? Making seitan in a pot bugs me for some reason....though better than in the oven.


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 Post subject: Re: Talk to me about pressure cookers
PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:46 am 
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My pressure cooker is my favorite appliance by far. Everyone should have one. I rarely buy canned beans, and it's great for making vegetable stock.

I even got one for my birthday from my fiancé, but that was kinda weird. I wanted a bike, not a household appliance :/

And it was a replacement one. Still, it's awesome.


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 Post subject: Re: Talk to me about pressure cookers
PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:56 pm 
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Jonny Guitar wrote:
Bumping because I believe that every vegan (or bean eater) should have a pressure cooker. Why, why did I wait so long to buy one? As a kid, I was scared of the pressure cooker (old style) and the memories made me steer well clear but now that I have one, I am choked it took so long to overcome my fear. I ended up getting a jiggly style presto 8 Quart (with safety valve and quick release) for really cheap new/used at the Salvation Army...it was too cheap not to buy.

2 1/2 minutes to cook Kidney beans, 9 minutes for Garbanzo beans, etc etc....so much time and energy saved it is worth it just for the legumes! Lots of beans you don't even have to soak and they cook in minutes. They are pretty cheap on Amazon too and I can see myself using it 3-4 times a week for veg/grain/beans. Lots


I just got this same exact pressure cooker! Do you not soak the beans at all? I've got some garbanzo beans I want to cook - the instruction guide says to soak them but if I don't have to I won't bother with it

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 Post subject: Re: Talk to me about pressure cookers
PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:20 pm 
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If you soak chickpeas overnight or 8 hours, it takes 14 minutes at high pressure and natural cool down. If you don't soak them, it takes more like 40 minutes.

I think of beans in three categories: no soaking required, medium cooking, and long cooking.

No soaking required: black eyed peas, lentils, split peas, mung. These usually take 10-14 minutes at pressure, unsoaked, natural cool down

Medium cooking: adzuki, pinto, cannelloni, navy, black (most beans). These usually take 3-6 minutes at pressure (if soaked) natural cool down.

Long: chickpea, soy: if soaked, these take about 15 minutes with natural cool down.

Great Vegetarian Cooking Under Pressure, by Lorna sass is worth the cost of the book for the table of cooking times on beans. It also has a table on cooking times for veg and the recipes are good/mainly vegan.

And yes, I LOVE MY PRESSURE COOKER!!! It is worth it just for beans but I use it for grains, seitan, and soups/stews.


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 Post subject: Re: Talk to me about pressure cookers
PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:35 am 
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Pressure cooker tip:

I decide what meal I am making before work, then soak the beans all day, and whoever gets home first cooks them. Then I have warm beans to cook with at night.


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I am lazy so I rarely soak but if you have the chance, you should for the ones that generally require soaking. Also, I throw in a cut up onion and maybe a bay leaf but not salt. You could throw in some baking soda as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Talk to me about pressure cookers
PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:50 am 
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Highly recommend a pressure cooker! I use mine nearly every day, for beans, rice, mashed potatoes, mashed sweet potatoes, etc. I've always used the time and soaking recommendations here: http://missvickie.com/howto/times/timingframe.html with no trouble. I have the Fagor Duo as well and I really love it, super easy to use, relatively inexpensive, and has lots of safety features.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:06 am 
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My pressure cooker gives instructions for a "quick soak" for beans -- you bring them to pressure for a few minutes, relieve the pressure, change the water, and then cook the instructed amount. It doesn't give quite as good of a texture as soaked beans, but works well if you forgot to soak. I would think it's applicable to all models?


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Seitan Question

I am making a batch of the blissful chef pressure cooked seitan and the 6 total cups of liquids does not cover the cheeseclothed seitan log. Am I supposed to add enough liquid to cover the seitan?

This time, I am going to quick release stop it after 15 minutes and flip the seitan and then put back on for another 15 and slow release. I get that I can steam it or I can boil it but this half covered seems to be somehow wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: Talk to me about pressure cookers
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Half an hour in the pressure cooker sounds like a very long time.

Water inside the pressure cooker vaporises into high-pressure steam. As long as it reaches more than about a third of the way up the pan, it should be fine. Much less, and it won't reach pressure.

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 Post subject: Re: Talk to me about pressure cookers
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I bought the Cuisinart 6 quart electric pressure cooker after reading many reviews and researching different options (stove top vs electric). I was a little wary about getting a pressure cooker because I had never used one, and the there are stories of pressure cookers exploding. Everything that I have read says that all of todays cookers are much safer, but because I tend to be very cautious I went with the electric model because of the added safety features.
I have made lots of different meals in a very short time and I don't have to worry if something is frozen, I can still cook it faster in here than defrosting and worrying about the microwave cooking it. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Talk to me about pressure cookers
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Pardon my ignorance here, but I don't know squat about these things.

So...if you made seitan in it it would basically be steamed, right? Just quicker.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:05 am 
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tofucheez wrote:
Pardon my ignorance here, but I don't know squat about these things.

So...if you made seitan in it it would basically be steamed, right? Just quicker.


If you use the foil-wrapped method in the steamer basket, it would. But if you are doing seitan submerged in broth it has the texture of boiled seitan.

I always do foil-wrapped and steam for 25 minutes at higher pressure, but we like our seitan reeeally chewy.


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