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 Post subject: A Climate-Friendly Cow and Why Your Stupid Vegan Friends...
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:25 am 
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An article in The Portland Mercury (a newspaper here) had an article with a title I found quite amusing.

All-Tomorrow's-Bovines - The Science of Creating a Climate-Friendly Cow and Why Your Stupid Vegan Friends Might Be Right After All

Not much new info for the likes of many of us, but I just had to laugh when I opened the paper the other day.

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 Post subject: Re: A Climate-Friendly Cow and Why Your Stupid Vegan Friends
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:48 am 
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I liked part of the first comment (the only one when I looked at the article): If you think vegan food tastes bad, you're doing it wrong. Especially in Portland.

I get so tired of the Mercury's (or the Stranger's—their parent, um, "company") anti-vegan stance.

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 Post subject: Re: A Climate-Friendly Cow and Why Your Stupid Vegan Friends
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:54 pm 
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That's interesting about pasture vs feed lot cattle and methane production. Next time some dum dum tells me they're eating ~*~sustainable~*~ pasture raised beef or dairy, I'll let them know grass produces more methane (not that I'm in favor of feed lots either). How sustainable!

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 Post subject: Re: A Climate-Friendly Cow and Why Your Stupid Vegan Friends
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:35 pm 
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It's not the meat—it's the miles.

(My understanding is that even relatively green meat is "dirtier" than relatively unsustainable plants, locavores notwithstanding.)

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 Post subject: Re: A Climate-Friendly Cow and Why Your Stupid Vegan Friends
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:15 pm 
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FootFace wrote:
It's not the meat—it's the miles.

(My understanding is that even relatively green meat is "dirtier" than relatively unsustainable plants, locavores notwithstanding.)


I once had some tell me that eating soy was bad because of the environmental impacts. It was in a vegan vs meat eater debate, and it took me a bit to realize he had no idea what was fed to cows and other farm animals. I hear the "growing x is so unsustainable" to a degree that surprises me as an anti-veg argument, because part of me assumes that most people are familiar with the sheer quantity that is needed to sustain meat production. I guess I expect too much from people.


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 Post subject: Re: A Climate-Friendly Cow and Why Your Stupid Vegan Friends
PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:05 am 
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FootFace wrote:
I get so tired of the Mercury's (or the Stranger's—their parent, um, "company") anti-vegan stance.

Yeah, it's pretty annoying.

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